Originally posted by luke
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So if I'm looking at it right, this design is moving the tank further back on the frame ?
Why ?
The purpose of the NDZ Drop Kick design is to get the gun closer to you making
your arms closer to your body, a tighter package, so to speak.
Maybe I'm just not understanding how it attaches to the frame.
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Wedge
I totally agree with this guy ^^^^^just keep it the same as Ndz drop kick simpleComment
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Have you guys played all day with a Z-Grip or one of these Drop-kicks?
If not, then you don't know nor do you understand what Luke is trying to accomplish with this design. Let him work the kinks out and then pick it apart.
These drops are great but they have a flaw...a very painful flaw.
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Originally posted by river031403
hey River and Ando here is that idea, took 30 minutes with a hack saw and ill clean it up with some sand paper...but you end up with 2 angled drops similar to the FBM and NDZ drops, and the bigger piece can be used to experiment with the Sleeper mod? just used a extra A-5 drop adapter that can be bought off ebay for 12.95 and under
Pics
would be alot easier to do if ya had better tools, but it can be cut with a hacksaw
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Originally posted by AndoHave you guys played all day with a Z-Grip or one of these Drop-kicks?
If not, then you don't know nor do you understand what Luke is trying to accomplish with this design. Let him work the kinks out and then pick it apart.
These drops are great but they have a flaw...a very painful flaw.
Maybe it would work better for a z grip.
But not for a standard frame.
And yes I have used a drop kick all day with no issues.
Whats it supposedly causing pain to ?
Thats news to me.
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First of all Yes I have. Man up andoOriginally posted by AndoHave you guys played all day with a Z-Grip or one of these Drop-kicks?
If not, then you don't know nor do you understand what Luke is trying to accomplish with this design. Let him work the kinks out and then pick it apart.
These drops are great but they have a flaw...a very painful flaw.
Secondly I was the one asking him to make a drop kick wedge For me but then he wanted to see if there was more interestComment
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Just for reference, although the endo design pushes the tank regulator back, the angle actually makes for a tighter setup. I roughly traced out lukes design in my sign program and overlayed it on top of this picture, of course I was guessing on the size, but the current angle did look more like the drop kick then the endo.
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There is nooooo way that the endo cradle gets the bottle and gun in tighter than a Ndz drop kick I'll hook mine up today and post a pickOriginally posted by ArstronJust for reference, although the endo design pushes the tank regulator back, the angle actually makes for a tighter setup. I roughly traced out lukes design in my sign program and overlayed it on top of this picture, of course I was guessing on the size, but the current angle did look more like the drop kick then the endo.
I'll leave it to the computer savi to do a side by side comparisonComment
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I don't know... looking at the NDZ that going home posted, compared to the Endo that Arstron posted, and it looks like he's right. Just judging from the back of the valve to the back of the tank, it appears that the Endo makes a shorter distance. The tank sits higher, and on a slightly different angle, but that's exactly what makes it tighter in the front-to-back line.Originally posted by river031403
Of course, it's not going to look that way if you post a pic using something smaller than a 68/45 tank or using something other than a standard-sized regulator.Comment
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What If you slid the tank and forward with the dove tail then what kind of angle would you have then?Originally posted by JustusComment
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I mounted a Drop Kick on a vert frame and did NOT like the feel of my tank and wrist fighting for space, so I never even used it in a game. I can only imagine what a Y or Z-grip would feel like. The Endo looks like it solves that with an noticeable drop.Originally posted by AndoHave you guys played all day with a Z-Grip or one of these Drop-kicks?
If not, then you don't know nor do you understand what Luke is trying to accomplish with this design. Let him work the kinks out and then pick it apart.
These drops are great but they have a flaw...a very painful flaw.
Looking forward to see what you come up with, Luke.
Stay Classy, AO...BEO: RIP / Topgun Paintball: RIP / Old MCB: RIPComment
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Do you still have your Ndz drop kick? If you don't like It Free up I'll take it and yes looking forward to seeing what the final Luke's design will beOriginally posted by zondoI mounted a Drop Kick on a vert frame and did NOT like the feel of my tank and wrist fighting for space, so I never even used it in a game. I can only imagine what a Y or Z-grip would feel like. The Endo looks like it solves that with an noticeable drop.
Looking forward to see what you come up with, Luke.
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Luke I like and trust your expertiseOriginally posted by lukeGuys, I'm a one man band, I can only do one project at a time.
That is what I'm looking into instead of the off-set, just kicking it back a tad will clean up the grip-wrist-tank problem.
Here is what I was working on>
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Here is a quick little comparison I did while bored here at work. If going_home's mag had a regular 45 there would still only be maybe a 1/2" difference, not what I expected from the pictures i've seen of the drop kick. Both tanks are very close in length from end to where the regulator screws.
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