Autocockers?

[mpsd]

No worries. I appreciate the help.

I also agree on buying a complete marker being cheaper, but I have been looking for a few days and not really seeing anything that is exactly what I want. The argument could also be made that by building it peice by peice that I get exactly what parts I want and don't have to worry about buying a marker and swapping things out. Essentlally I want the body I linked above with an 86* frame and CCM pump kit. Doubtful I would find that exact combo without waiting for months or possibly years. I'm patient, but not that patient.

Well a CCM pump kit with an 86* frame will run you at least $150 used, I believe. Add the body, internals, reg, other smaller parts and shipping costs from different sellers and you will be looking at spending US$ 300, at least. That's used CCM teritorry already.

[river031403]

cockers are addicting also

I finished this one about 2months ago and Im starting on another one

[OPBN]

And so it begins:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/300739296218...84.m1497.l2649

Body =$51.90

[GEE TEE]

[OPBN]

So what constitutes "good" internals? When I started playing paintball I mainly shot Tippmanns and always facepalmed when I saw people listing upgraded powertubes, bolts etc as I never saw any benefit other than fattening the sellers wallet. What true benefits are there to CCM, Belsales or any other internals in an AC or is it just hype?

BTW, I have registered on customcockers, but so far my account has not been activated as I cannot do anything but read through threads and PM people.

[Darring D]

I PM'ed K.macocker to see if he can get you activated. did you use OPBN as account name?

[GEE TEE]

So what constitutes "good" internals? When I started playing paintball I mainly shot Tippmanns and always facepalmed when I saw people listing upgraded powertubes, bolts etc as I never saw any benefit other than fattening the sellers wallet. What true benefits are there to CCM, Belsales or any other internals in an AC or is it just hype?

BTW, I have registered on customcockers, but so far my account has not been activated as I cannot do anything but read through threads and PM people.

Internals do make a difference but not as much as some other mods. Good quality pneumatics, trigger frames, lightweight bolts and inline regulators are where the wise money gets spent. You can still fit a better valve, hammer etc.. But the stock WGP internals are not that bad, and a lot of my cockers still have them. Expensive parts won't make a cocker shoot right if it's been badly put together and timed.

Account activation on CC can take a while.. but you'll get there on eventually

[saintnoir]

a lot is hype stock works fine but are you gonna run hpa,co2 or 12 grams? that dictates what you need in a setup

[river031403]

ccm lowers

my 05 prostock had stock lowers with a farting issues and not very smooth. I put ccm lowers no farting and smooth no lie no hype

[saintnoir]

had a farty 03 changed springs solved it i said a lot not all.ccm are good but ive found that most of the time a bit of air,time and a spring kit works wonders

[cockerpunk]

my 05 prostock had stock lowers with a farting issues and not very smooth. I put ccm lowers no farting and smooth no lie no hype

merely respringing and retuning your WGP stuff could have achieved the same thing. CCM knows how to do this well, doesn't mean they are the only ones. the WGP stuff is not tuned for a pump.

[river031403]

ccm

another reason why i got the ccm lowers is due to there great customer service and the fact that there parts have a lifetime warranty

[GEE TEE]

WGP parts will last for years if properly maintained.

They may not be made to same tolerances or quality of finish as CCM parts, but they work and cost peanuts to replace.

As Cockerpunk said.. Farting could have been fixed for free by adjusting inline pressure, springing or both

[river031403]

to each there own

WGP parts will last for years if properly maintained.

They may not be made to same tolerances or quality of finish as CCM parts, but they work and cost peanuts to replace.

As Cockerpunk said.. Farting could have been fixed for free by adjusting inline pressure, springing or both

I shot my gun with both set of internals/components and there is a difference.

[OPBN]

I PM'ed K.macocker to see if he can get you activated. did you use OPBN as account name?

Yeah. Says my account is activated, but in the moderator que.

As for internals, I 100% intend for this to be a pump running HPA.

Also, anyone know how to tell if a CCM pump kit is 2K+ or not?