any chance of new mags from AGD anytime?

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  • dodge3500
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    Are we so old or set in our ways that we don't want a younger generation packing shiny new automags instead of some 1200 electro? I think AGD could change a few curves add a little color,keep the rock solid drive train and interchangeable parts and sell some mags to the older/younger folks np.I think it would be wonderful to see a new mag on the shelves.I totally understand we have some great folks still making great stuff for our current mags and we wanna keep our values on our mags up.I think AGD could do something in a way that its a win/win for everybody.:-) lol but I'm a day dreamer and a optimistic hopeful.

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  • Nobody
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    let see...

    made a gun that was the fastest, till electros came about.

    made something reliable that all you have to do is throw some oil at it once a year.

    made something that doesn't chop, and doesn't need eyes.

    made something even faster than anything else.

    was the basis for a pneumatic mod, so that you can have a walkable mech.

    the question isn't does the world need anything new from AGD, its what could possibly be an improvement on what we already have?

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  • blackdeath1k
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    So I think agd made one giant business mistake back in the late 80s. They designed something that needs minimal upkeep. And very little in the way of improvement. Hard to make a continued major profit when something you created 20 years ago still holds its own.......quite possibly with pretty much all factory Orings.



    And the twist lock barrel is still one of my favorite features. The loss of that is one reason I don't want an al body for my rt.

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  • Mobius V
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    /\ My thoughts exactly, I have a pair of emags and a RT Pro that pretty much take care of business and have been since 2000

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  • blackdeath1k
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    Idk bout all new guns. But back in 95 I said I would replace my gun when I felt I was out matched. In 2000 I got a automagrt to take the place of my original mag as my main gun. Its now 2013 and I'm still using said rt. And my wife loved the minimag I got her. So I will stick with agd till I can no longer get parts for it. That being said. If my wife plays a decent amount I may have to order her one like that picture above. That all black is sexy. And light.
    Last edited by blackdeath1k; 03-14-2013, 04:44 PM.

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  • Spider-TW
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    Originally posted by cockerpunk
    1/infinity
    So there's quantifiable hope?

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  • cockerpunk
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    1/infinity

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  • KurtPB
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    I don't know too much about anodizing but I always thought matching a batch of parts had partly to do with who was actually anodizing the work?

    And yeah, I know 'mags hold their value. Not sure if you understood what I was getting at. That they're still able to be relevant on the market, produce new products and yet their older stuff still holds a premium price.
    Last edited by KurtPB; 03-14-2013, 11:04 AM.

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  • OPBN
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    I totally agree that I would love to see some custom anodizing combos available, but I can also understand the flip side of the coin from a practical business standpoint as well. With most of the colored valves probably starting to show their age, I would love to see a run of Red, Blue, Purple and maybe some Green done as well. Ooo maybe Orange. I think offering these colors and maybe making it public knowledge of who can match the ano colors or giving the dye color number(not sure if this is how it works) so that people could do their own color matching would be awesome. Don't see it happening, but it would be pretty sweet.

    Originally posted by KurtPB
    Not to mention, true CCM markers have great resale.
    So do Mags....

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  • KurtPB
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    CCM seem to do a pretty good job with their special colors. This is a topic that has been beat to death, revived, and then beat to death again and again. All I have to say is that those updates are what newer buyers expect a gun at that price to have these days. I don't even expect AGD to ever get back to where they were when they had their name on the airball bunkers and whatnot, that ship has sailed. I'd just like to see them operate at a level like CCM where they do some updating along the way, offer the options(colors and parts, even if they have to be ordered and paid for before-hand) and reach out to the community.

    Not to mention, true CCM markers have great resale.
    Last edited by KurtPB; 03-14-2013, 10:44 AM.

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  • OPBN
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    Originally posted by dodge3500
    Bring out different milled rails and body's with updated feed necks and detents.bring back y frames and matching annoed x-valves,they don't have to create a totally new marker but rather update a few things.there is a large crowd of younger folks that don't even know what a automag is.(make what is old new again)I guess I'm just being too hopeful. :-) :-)
    IIRC, it took them YEARS to finally get rid of the Y frames because they sold so poorly. There are several companies offering bodies, rails and frames already which is something that is usually handled by the aftermarket. Do Dye or Kee offer body kits or custom frames for their markers?

    One area that I would strongly agree that updates could be done is in regards to colors. But then you get into what colors sell, which don't? And if you start anodizing the valves, you have to have matching bodies and what happens if people start ordering clown markers with red valves, purple bodies and green frames? So I get that aspect of it because if you make everything black, it all matches. And lets be honest, Mag are probably used more so in woodsball games than tourney, so black is probably a better choice for most.

    My .02

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  • Bunny
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    There is really no reason for AGD to make anymore mags. I think it actually has helped the marketplace for used mags to be completely stable compared to other manufacturers out there.

    Btw, we have a few really talented people working on new parts for Automags to this day. Sure its not AGD, but some of the parts are just as good.

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  • dodge3500
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    Bring out different milled rails and body's with updated feed necks and detents.bring back y frames and matching annoed x-valves,they don't have to create a totally new marker but rather update a few things.there is a large crowd of younger folks that don't even know what a automag is.(make what is old new again)I guess I'm just being too hopeful. :-) :-)

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  • KurtPB
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    Originally posted by OPBN
    Foregrips do come directly on the rails these days. They do not utilize clamping feednecks because they realize this is a personal preference thing that a lot of people swap out regardless. It just raises the price. Same with on/off ASAs. Current models also do not come with site rails and the rails are in fact holeless excepting for the one for the sear axle.

    So I guess they already produce your dream Mag other than wanting feedneck and ASA options?

    This is what a current RT Pro come from the factory looking like*:

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    * I have heard that they no longer offer the bike style grip, but instead use a foam grip. And I think the grips are different possibly as well.
    Guess I haven't looked at AGD's website in years for anything I want but not my dream mag by any means, no. Just stating what people expect from a marker in that price range these days.

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  • OPBN
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    Originally posted by KurtPB
    These days if someone ordered from the factory a foregrip on the rail, clamping feedneck and if not an on/off asa than a decent standard one. Also, this is 2013, the days of sight rails and whatnot are gone, have factory hole-less rails and get rid of the extra.
    Foregrips do come directly on the rails these days. They do not utilize clamping feednecks because they realize this is a personal preference thing that a lot of people swap out regardless. It just raises the price. Same with on/off ASAs. Current models also do not come with site rails and the rails are in fact holeless excepting for the one for the sear axle.

    So I guess they already produce your dream Mag other than wanting feedneck and ASA options?

    This is what a current RT Pro come from the factory looking like*:

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    * I have heard that they no longer offer the bike style grip, but instead use a foam grip. And I think the grips are different possibly as well.

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