Brasseagle really suing Halo

[jah871]

bringing this thread back because i have a few questions for odyssey. if i buy a new halo now will you guys service them if need be or will i be out of luck if anything happens to it?

[CRog075]

Yeah..what happened in this case?

[xen_100]

there is one thing you guys are forgetting............BE filed for anf got this patent in 1994. a patent is only good for 7 years. it expired, what can they sue for exactly????

as for sueing just to put a company out of business. sony did that to bleem INC. they made emulator disk so that you could play "play staion" games on Pc's and dreamcasts. of course sony didn't like this at all. they really didn't have a case, and lost case after case after case. but they kept sueing for every little piddley thing and eventually bleem couldn't keep up with the lawsuit bills and folded up shop. suck huh?

[Tom Sparkman]

Originally posted by xen_100
there is one thing you guys are forgetting............BE filed for anf got this patent in 1994. a patent is only good for 7 years. it expired, what can they sue for exactly????

No, 20 years. From the US patent office:

"A patent for an invention is the grant of a property right to the inventor, issued by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. Generally, the term of a new patent is 20 years from the date on which the application for the patent was filed in the United States or, in special cases, from the date an earlier related application was filed, subject to the payment of maintenance fees"

http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/doc/general/

Tom

[xen_100]

oops....I though it was 7 m y bad

[bornl33t]

In other words ppl, we need a full scale Boycot on anything BE. I will never buy BE stuff, no matter how much I need something, and incourage everyone else to do the same.

And if the BE ppl read this.... here's a big ol' mooning for ya ( Y )

[Spaceman613]

So you will never buy anything Vieloader? JT? Or Brass Eagle? Never play at Challenge Park? good luck

Its hard to be completely without Brass Eagle in some form. They have thier hands ina lot of pies.

[rdb123]

Originally posted by Spaceman613
So you will never buy anything Vieloader? JT? Or Brass Eagle? Never play at Challenge Park? good luck

Its hard to be completely without Brass Eagle in some form. They have thier hands ina lot of pies.

Well, I've got a HALO, Dye gear, and I live in FL so it's not like I can go play in Illinois every weekend. Looks like I'm safe =)

Anyway, did BE lose this suit?

-Ron

[EsPo]

revvy = poor mans halo hehe

[rdb123]

Originally posted by EsPo
revvy = poor mans halo hehe

Lol you got that one right. The 12v Revvy couldn't keep up with the old RT Pro I used to have when I would let the trigger bounce off my finger.... Turned it into a paintblender and yes, I had a Level10 properly installed in it. But I tried it on my friend's identical setup and it works perfectly with a Halo B. Ha! =)

-Ron

[paintballbeaver]

you guys need to relize what brass eagle is trying to due
they are trying to file suit against odessy to make them go bankrupt they figure that odessy is a small enough company that they can end up winning after odessy runs of of funds to support there case and then brasseagle will take over patent rights and start production on a pos loader that they will call the halo

what brass eagle does not relize is that odessy has backing from smartparts and other companys so i hope brass eagle has fun but our leagal system will either throw the case out or odessy will get enough backing that brass eagle will drop suit

[davidb]

Brass Eagle isn't going to put Odyssey out of business. This suit may carry on for a good long while, and cost the boys at Odyssey a good deal of money, but during that time, Odyssey is going to continue business as usual. During that time, Odyssey is going to cut into BE's market share even further with their Halo SA. My guess is, they're going to undercut the Revvy's price, with a better product. From there, they might try to lighten the Halo B. They already are dominating the market for expensive loaders, and it won't be long before they do the same for cheap ones.

I would love to see Oddysey countersue BE for a bad suit.

I, for one, will now be content to wait for the SA to come out to buy a loader for my backup gun, instead of looking at something from VL. And I can't wait to send my Halo in for a "B" upgrade and a new shell.

[JT2002]

halo and revvies have several different characteristics which have already been stated in this thread so i wont bore u all with restating them.

Originally posted by Snooky
I'm in favor of BE on this one. i mean why compete when u can conquer. its just good buisness.

no not really. it's sort of sneaky, snobby, cheap, and all out bad business IMHO. conquer instead of compete is bad business. everyone has a right to have his/her own businesses. BE is just trying to take that away so they can monopolize loaders since, as we all know, BE's guns, masks (except for any jt made equipment minus the sh1++y excellerators), and especially their paintballs all suck beyond belief.

but, u know, BE is special because i mean, where else can u buy a ball that will always give u an innacurate spiral or curve with every shot!

snooky. basically ur saying this "Hi everyone were Brass Eagle owner of the Revolution and Evolution hopper line. were a good company, nice, and friendly. although we have some really crappy customer support, we make decent cheap loaders during the week, and run companies with a better product out of business for fun on the weekends. "why?" you ask? because were a bunch snobby, filthy rich men.

i really have had the pleasure of dealing with BE's customer support. theyre so helpful. you can only buy general parts for your loader so, if u lose something like a battery clip or the plastic adapter that holds ur x board they say to u " oh no sorry u cant get that youve got to buy another x board from us" . some customer service eh? they dont care about the ppl who use their products. all they care about is how many they sell and how much they make and oh yeah, they also want to know when their next competitor will be poor and run out of business. this lawsuit shows BE's character. theyre just like John (i think thats his first name lol ) rockefeller with the same one goal in mind. Monopolize and you will own all. rockefeller's monopoly is the one and only reason why we now have gas franchises like mobil, shell, , amoco, and such. they and others all originated from the once "Standard Oil Company"


dam, i always hated school essays and look at this.
i bet we could write a large novel with all the posts written here. i think ill call it "How to monopolize an industry, by Brass Eagle inc." oh wait, thats probably already been copyrighted by BE anyways, ,oh well.


DOWN WITH Brass Eagle!!

[BajaBoy]

ive ALWAYS hated brasseagle... me and my friend are calling them tomarrow (DTM)

im really mad at BE.

[rikkter]

"down with Brass Eagle", and for you it'd be
"Up for assumtions!"

no, they're balls dont always have a innaccurae spiral or curve with every shot. matter of fact. i shot LITERALLY 8 month old Brass Eagle paint in my mag. about 140 of them(bout a 140 pod full) and NOT ONE BREAK. they went fairly straight. now i'm not disagreeing, because when i got about 10 shots left, one curved, hit the house behind the fence. and i had to jump the fence and clean it. but that was 1 our of like 130 shot..

you have a revvy right? BE!. DOWN WITH BRASS EAGLE! now ihave to spend 110 dollars on a halo, or 60-80 on a loud richochet that holds 140 paintballs.

you have to realize that BE obviously isn't looking for the pro players to buy their stuff. now thats obvious and i'm sure you know. i do agree with you where they want money. but then again we all do. AGD is a GREAT company with more then needed custormer support. they're smart.they know this attracts players. BE doesn't know this i guess.

"and run companies with a better product out of business for fun on the weekends. "why?" you ask? because were a bunch snobby, filthy rich men. "
same thing DYE is doing to JT. same thing JT is doing to DYE, same thing Smart pArts is trying to do. etc etc etc. not really trying to boot others out of business, but to be on top. now BE could easily make products jsut the same, but they know they make cheap products that people buy when they have a limited cash flow and aint into paintball tall that much. but JT and DYE and other compans don't do it because they're 'snobby flithy rich men'
if BE came out with a better product that did the same thing but durability was beter then a different companies, which one would you buy? ok.

i'm not trying to flame, it just bugs me how people go and rant on a buisness trying to be succesful, which they have succeeded at.
if they wanted to make top of the line gear, they could, just as JT, and DYE can.