New ULE Bodies? How'd we all miss this?

[OPBN]

Unless these are super cheap I don't get it. Some real odd aspects as mentioned above. Wondering who they got feedback/input from considering they never posted anything ahead of time. Seems like you would poll your target audience before investing in something like this.

[Patron God of Pirates]

Unless these are super cheap I don't get it. Some real odd aspects as mentioned above. Wondering who they got feedback/input from considering they never posted anything ahead of time. Seems like you would poll your target audience before investing in something like this.

Yes and no. As a general rule consumers want what they get rather than getting what they want. Probably not the case with niche markets like automags. The price point is really important here. If this thing isn't markedly cheaper than a ULE body then it's kind of pointless. If it's considerably cheaper than it has the potential to expand the Mag market a bit by offering lower cost access to features people want.

[OPBN]

Yes and no. As a general rule consumers want what they get rather than getting what they want. Probably not the case with niche markets like automags. The price point is really important here. If this thing isn't markedly cheaper than a ULE body then it's kind of pointless. If it's considerably cheaper than it has the potential to expand the Mag market a bit by offering lower cost access to features people want.

I disagree. Knowing your market is very important. Some would argue that AGD most of all learned this lesson a few times. Producing something that people don't want is pointless. I can't imagine bringing something to market that I wasn't fairly certain was actually needed/wanted. More info is definitely needed.!

[Patron God of Pirates]

I disagree. Knowing your market is very important. Some would argue that AGD most of all learned this lesson a few times. Producing something that people don't want is pointless. I can't imagine bringing something to market that I wasn't fairly certain was actually needed/wanted. More info is definitely needed.!

I agree but I could argue AGDs shortfall was failing to tell people what they wanted. lol.

[barkingspider]

And I have to add, CCM threads, really?

If you're screwing in to something, Angel seems to be the most common thread pattern in the industry. Anything other than a clamp-on feedneck seems a step backwards.

Both these companies are near one another, if I was to guess I bet they have some type of working relationship. It seems that all these companies cross mingle a lot in Oregon.

[C_losjoker]

I agree, someone coming out with something new or alternate for a mag is usually a plus. Really I don't think it's that ugly, need better pictures of the body itself.

My only concern is price and how can they be anodized.

Who's to say they don't have an automag, just happens that their friend had a better one that can rip.

Props to Gearhead for making these. Not a fan of the feed necks or the plastic covers for them, but the way I see it any company deciding there is enough of a market place to do this is a good thing. Very curious about the price point.

[Chrome]

I kind of wish anyone designing a new body would like... do it right, from scratch... and not inherit all the legacy design flaws.

Sorry if I just missed it, or am forgetting something, but what specifically do you mean by legacy design flaws? Not trying to be argumentative; I really want to know. Given a completely clean slate, please clarify if you have time. Thank you!

[GoatBoy]

Sorry if I just missed it, or am forgetting something, but what specifically do you mean by legacy design flaws? Not trying to be argumentative; I really want to know. Given a completely clean slate, please clarify if you have time. Thank you!

I didn't post it in this thread; it's kind of scattered in various other threads. Some of it is in the other "time for a new automag body" thread.

I hate feednecks (doubly true for threaded ones), prefer dual detents, don't see the need to actually cut barrel threads into the body, and I like bodies which are both warp compatible and vert/right feed at the same time.

I mean, Hell, if you're going to do something ugly, with plastic bits, you might as well go for max functionality.

[OPBN]

So not so much flaws, but failures to live up to your warped idea of the perfect body?

[knownothingmags]

:rofl:

So not so much flaws, but failures to live up to your warped idea of the perfect body?

[luke]

From what I can see the design approach based on the lowest material costs possible and perhaps limited by machining equipment, however this is purely speculation.
Form follows function, materials and production approach.

[GoatBoy]

So not so much flaws, but failures to live up to your warped idea of the perfect body?

Not perfect; just actually functional.

Functionality is all I care about (well, that and cost); everything else is your domain.

From what I can see the design approach based on the lowest material costs possible and perhaps limited by machining equipment, however this is purely speculation.
Form follows function, materials and production approach.

And that's where the rubber meets the road.

[OPBN]

Not perfect; just actually functional.

Functionality is all I care about (well, that and cost); everything else is your domain.
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But you said flaws. They are not inherent legacy flaws, just things that you don't like. You think threads in the body are not needed, so it's a flaw. You don't like feednecks, especially threaded feednecks so it's a flaw. Both items that I consider positives, as do most people. Just because something doesn't live up to your unique criteria doesn't make it flawed. AC threaded bodies are very functional. Threaded feednecks are very functional. Aluminum is lightweight and sturdy, functional. For that matter, with a simple adapter, you can even make CF ULE body warp ready. About the only item I agree with is that dual detents could and probably should be standard.

I personally think warpfeeds are pointless, therefore they must have legacy flaws. Did I do it right?

[debruynda]

Thanks XMT, for making bodies that don't below goat (no offense goatboy) like this one.

[debruynda]

But in all seriousness...Goat and OPBN, hug it out. I remember Goat at least from tunaball 7 and you didn't seem like a bad dude...can't we all agree that this body just plain does not make sense?