New ULE Bodies? How'd we all miss this?

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  • GoatBoy
    Junior Mint
    • Jun 2003
    • 1399

    #91
    Originally posted by need4reebs
    So what we have here would be a green feed neck adapter screwed into the body, and then the silver neck thingy screwed into that, then another thingy to go from threads to no-threads, and then the empire spring feed housing itself to get to the spring feed.

    These are all well crafted solutions to a problem which *never should have existed in the first place*.

    The greatest irony is that we have feed necks because paintball started with tube feeds to begin with. In the days of stick feeds, it made sense. Tube goes into tube, fine. But then someone decided to stick a motor oil can or something on the feed neck, and *POW* feed necks as structural components. And we still haven’t managed to ditch this completely legacy contraption. It’s a vestigial holdover from the bad old days. And now to get a tube feed back onto the gun, you’ve got to go through 4 different parts.

    The curious design matter here is the fact that someone took a look at what CCM was doing, and decided to replicate… the feed neck threads!?

    Why not replicate the two-hole body mounting system, or something similar to that?! The bodies probably won’t be the same diameter, but that’s a minor issue.

    You already solved the same exact problem on the BOTTOM of the body, where it is mounted to the rail/grip frame. Just solve it again on the top around the feed hole. Just like CCM did. Just like Spyder did. Just like BT did.

    The customer can still have a retarded feedneck if that’s his desire (and it will likely be lower profile). If not, it’s nearly completely removable. And far easier to make other feed accessories for. Like, say, a direct spring feed housing that doesn’t literally require 3 other pieces to attach and still sits more than an inch higher than necessary anyways.

    Instead, what you now have is a weld job that you can’t even bear to look at, so you cover it up with plastic, and a non-removable feedneck stump that sits like 1” above the body by itself? When did high-rise bodies come back in style?

    I like the fact that someone is trying to do an affordable aluminum mag body.

    But they clearly didn’t clean-slate this one. "Let's just do one like the others, but cheaper."
    "Accuracy by aiming."


    Definitely not on the A-Team.

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    • going_home
      Hebrews 13:8

      • Dec 2004
      • 8345

      #92
      I think they were going for inexpensive more than anything and without the square part the ULE has theres no way to mount a feedneck, thus the welded piece.

      If they had made it without an inexpensive way to mount a feedneck their potential customer base would have been almost non existent.

      I personally wouldnt buy a body I couldnt mount a feedneck to, I see a feedneck as a necessity not an impediment.

      I'm going to go out on a limb and say almost all Automag enthusiasts that would consider buying a ULE or one of these bodies will agree with me, a feedneck is not a problem.

      To the contrary, no feedneck would be a huge problem.

      goodjob

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      • MAGgot
        Registered User

        • Aug 2008
        • 417

        #93
        Goatboy, you have either failed to read the previous posts, or don't care to.
        These were designed to make the ultimate rental fleet, low cost was a main objective. GHPB bought the extras from the manufacturer, threaded the necks, and is selling them on the cheap.
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        • Nobody
          Nobody's Perfect
          • Oct 2001
          • 3384

          #94
          all in all, until these bodies are released to the public, so that we can all get a good look at them, i.e. see the feedneck, see the actual fit and finish, and basically have it in the hands of a mag person who knows what you are looking at and can translate what we think, into what we see, its all speculation. i'll totally agree that if they can beat the purchase price of a AGD ULE body, then they will sell. if not, then it falls into the realm of people wanting to find either Angel parts for the body versus cocker parts.

          so everyone chill down and head back to your corners. no need to ruffle feathers or get into a dander over this. let us celebrate that there is an outside AGD source for mainbodies, something that we as a community haven't really had except for PTP. cause, i see this, not as a possible successor to the AGD ULE, but a supplement and if that supplement body actually does something in the market, then it could open up the eyes of other companies seeing that the AGD community is as alive as ever, and that we want products. i would love to see a CCM body, or Empire, or anyone else that stepped over and stepped by AGD.

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          • Frizzle Fry
            AO Micromag Guy
            • Mar 2009
            • 3280

            #95
            Question... Can you break the weld on the feedneck, then drill/tap for Phantom style feedneck and stockclass feedblock?

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            • need4reebs
              OutKasT 4 Sho!!!

              • Feb 2011
              • 1441

              #96
              Originally posted by Frizzle Fry
              Question... Can you break the weld on the feedneck, then drill/tap for Phantom style feedneck and stockclass feedblock?

              i heard that if you break tha weld on tha feed neck that another one will grow back….but i hear Krazy ShNiT lately…..haha
              http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...8715822556.gif

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              • djinnform
                Rental Hunter

                • Mar 2009
                • 651

                #97
                Originally posted by Sniper Steve
                here is a youtube video of them

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-d2zpZ3gxI
                that new body shoots ropes!

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                • Runamok
                  http://www.automags.org/fo
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 866

                  #98
                  OH! Come on? since when has a body ever effected rate of fire? I could force feed a classic stick right body and shoot 30 bps. I don't want to spend that much time re-loading everything. A body alines the valve and barrel together,if you want one buy it . If you want to nit pick Don't! Buy it, Build it, shoot it. Then gripe! I have a classic RT that suffers from pre-mature ejaculation and projectile vomiting. ie, when I air it it shoots when I shoot it it won't stop. It's a on/off pin issue(I think) I'm not that worried about it. I'll fix it when I can,or want to. The body is not the issue. Gearhead has offered us this product, I'm going to get one after the new year and play around with it. I may even rip the feed off and throw a stock class Phantom feed to it, then put my X-valve behind it. 20 bps, reload each 1/2 sec. Ye Ha so fun, no wonder I play mostly pump anymore. BTW when was the last time anyone offered a new Mag part? GH is trying. Lets help. next might be an Alum. classic valve. Wouldn't that be cool or they might turn their hand at a Alum. Sydarm body and shave ten pounds of a Sydarm. Or they might re-vamp the field strip screw! He... I drilled and tapped a AM/MM rail to take RT sight rail and forgrip mount, Why not?
                  I took the road least traveled...now where the hell am I ?

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                  • dodge3500
                    aka rockytop
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 431

                    #99
                    I think the new body with a detent and a clamping feedneck is just about 112$, a ule is 140$ I think new without a clamping feedneck. I just may grab one up after the first of the year.A company comming out with new parts for mags is sweeet.(in Darth Vader voice)DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF A MAG.:-)

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                    • knownothingmags
                      RKM 3D Designs

                      • Apr 2010
                      • 4810

                      #100
                      Originally posted by Runamok
                      OH! Come on? since when has a body ever effected rate of fire?
                      some mm2k9 bodies. :rofl:
                      logoRKM 3D Designs

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                      • TimmyJay
                        I came to play...not talk
                        • May 2007
                        • 779

                        #101
                        I was thinking... Could the plastic piece be replaced with carbon fiber or aluminum?

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                        • Fred
                          AO Zealot
                          • Feb 2002
                          • 2624

                          #102
                          After shooting Phantoms for years, with lots of abuse, if these bodies are coming from Mike Casady's shop I would not doubt their durability.

                          I don't see why you couldn't get a carbon cap made, but it'd be pricey. Same with aluminum.

                          Personally I like the minimalism of the design, but, I wouldn't swap one out over a ULE.
                          Warp Feed Evangelist
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                          • Patron God of Pirates
                            ~pgop1.0
                            • Apr 2002
                            • 1196

                            #103
                            Just got mine in. Looks great. Black on black makes in next to impossible to notice the plastic unless you're looking for it. Props to Gearhead on both the quick turn time and the packaging. The later being a big plus considering how I've been receiving paintball items lately. I'll post picks when I get it on a marker.

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                            • GHPBwoman
                              Registered User
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 11

                              #104
                              Glad you got yours in so quickly, Patron. Even with priority, ship times are sketch this time of year so I'm glad it didn't get stuck somewhere.

                              A big thank you all who have ordered a Helios body! We have 2 black and 2 red bodies left as of this morning. Although our shop will be closed for the holiday through New Year's Day (closing up tonight at 7pm PST for a week off), if you order a Helios I will be making special trips to get them shipped within 48 hours of purchase.

                              Once we are sold out, we will not be getting more bodies in until sometime in January.

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                              • Frizzle Fry
                                AO Micromag Guy
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 3280

                                #105
                                Hey PGOP, mind if I swing by at some point with my calipers and check out that body?

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