New ULE Bodies? How'd we all miss this?

[C_losjoker]

Goayboy,

So how would you have the feedneck and barrel stay on, pressing them in? That's how everyone was doing them, until customers were having hell of a time getting them off. If that is how BT is doing them I don't they it's better, just cheaper. I'd think less time milling equal less cost for the company but same mark up more money.

[GoatBoy]

So how would you have the feedneck and barrel stay on, pressing them in? That's how everyone was doing them, until customers were having hell of a time getting them off. If that is how BT is doing them I don't they it's better, just cheaper. I'd think less time milling equal less cost for the company but same mark up more money.

The BT feedneck is basically a picatinny accessory. It's very solid yet easy to completely remove and swap out for the spring feed or a Rip Clip. I really like it; only problems are it's right feed; no vertical or warp feed options.

Barrels you have options. I'd go with a plastic mag2cocker adapter if you want something threaded, and if you were clever, you produce multiple threaded adapters for different barrel types.



Again, if their intent was to make this an affordable entry into aluminum bodies, that's fine... We'll have to see how affordable these are, and how they accomplished it exactly...

[OPBN]

You're sort of missing/confusing multiple points.

I'm not confusing anything. You named feednecks and threaded bodies as legacy design flaws. I'm pointing out that just because you have some interesting viewpoints regarding them, doesn't make them design flaws.

[MAGgot]

Interesting. I thought I'd be the one bringing these to market.
These were originally designed for a friend/ local field owner to upgrade his rental fleet to Automags. They're good bodies for the price point we planned to sell them at, not sure what GHPB is going to sell them for.

Here's mine.

[Runamok]

Just tell me how much($) and when.Then I'll post a review/opinion.Damn I'm a Mag Whore and this is a new product. Advertising could have been better,and AO would be my chose of launching point(just because we are Automag!). But I'll give a new body a shot,WTH I can't seem to find a Daralla. Lets give gearhead a chance, then offer [B]USEFUL[/B] comments so they can see how things can go. And if we can't add Useful ideas we all need to shut up including myself!

[blackdeath1k]

True. Any way to get the price point down on what looks like a new age mag to the general folk could be good.

[vintage]

anything to generate more interest in automags is useful.

[Frizzle Fry]

If the "high end" model with the nice feedneck is around $85 (the low-end of a used ULE pricerange) I will concede that this product has its place on the market, otherwise I just can't see it.

My big issue with it is the feedneck. Welding is a way to bring down costs, but it seems like a copout, and the "hide the flaws with plastic" routine is tired. Even if you get over the looks it, it's still a very tall feedneck, like the old stovepipes of the late 90s and early 2000s... Those were a necessity with old loader technology and higher BPS caps, and while some people still like them, it's pretty clear that most people these days would rather go with the lowest profile possible for their feedneck, and what's being offered here is far from it.

[Nobody]

with a slightly better look, they look cheap to me(yeah i know, bashing products that do the community good). there is nothing to them(which is good because of the expensive), but it seems that at least some thought could have been put forth to at least do something to the esthetics of it. sure, its no Dallara and it wasn't supposed to be, but still, i think we could asked for more than a tube, with a plastic 90* for the feedneck.

[C_losjoker]

Still bring yours out, like everyone said. Having more options is never a bad thing.

Interesting. I thought I'd be the one bringing these to market.
These were originally designed for a friend/ local field owner to upgrade his rental fleet to Automags. They're good bodies for the price point we planned to sell them at, not sure what GHPB is going to sell them for.

Here's mine.

[MAGgot]

Still bring yours out, like everyone said. Having more options is never a bad thing.

I was going to be buying these from the person that is making these for GHPB (with my friend, who these were originally made for, as the middle man). They're the exact same product. I will only move forward with the deal if GHPB's markup is absurd.

[C_losjoker]

As someone said, same thing as a phantom feedneck. A and those seem to do just fine with everyone, don't hear people complain about the feedneck on those. If the price for this body with neck or no neck of your choice is below ule, this is going to be a great thing for us. I myself don't think the plastic around the neck is that bad, of course I look at function and cost over looks because all my markers will get used.

[Frizzle Fry]

Seems they're being made by CCI... Why not the newer style feedneck with the stockfeed option?

[Patron God of Pirates]

I actually like the look of the body. Sort of a No-Hump ULE. The plastic bugs me, but you could always remove it and go with a powder coat instead of anno. Would nice to see a raw body made available since we MAG folk are going to change everything anyway.

[GHPBwoman]

Unfortunately, there isn't a big enough Confidentiality Agreement to cover forums on the internet, so much of the speculation on this and other threads will not be addressed.

As on several (not all) of our products, the Helios has been touched by many hands behind the scenes. We strive to bring quality and affordability to our customers without making many mistakes, and we are blessed that we have several company owners and players across the U.S. who are willing to work with us on developing projects. We are a small company seeking stability, longevity and profitability in a wildly unpredictable market and so yes, we absolutely do work closely with companies and individuals who have incredible stability, longevity and (we hope) profitability in our industry.

The Helios Automag body is a Gearheadz Paintball, LLC product line and we are proud to have it under our company name. At this time there are not plans to wholesale this product to other retailers. Any retailer interested in resale of this or any other Gearheadz product can always contact me at [email protected] to see if that is an available option, but as of the time of this writing the Helios is not slated for distribution beyond the Gearheadz Paintball showroom and website.

I apologize for any misinformation, and encourage anyone with questions about the Helios to contact our shop directly by e-mail ([email protected]) or by phone (503)547-0888 or by stopping by our showroom in Hillsboro, Oregon.

A product FAQ should be up and available later today, along with pricing. As soon as pricing is officially announced the Helios bodies will be available for sale in our showroom, and I expect them to be available on our online pro-store no later than Friday.