Warpless z2

[Justus]

I'm with BE, I think. I angle my warp bracket all the way forward so that the warpfeed sits parallel with my forearm at a diagonal angle. Then adjust my hopper so that it sits facing forward again, and the warp hose comes out along the right side without needing any hopper mods (no hose-through, no melting and molding around the hose).

That said, without the warpfeed, the hopper is going to sit at pretty much the same level and the bulk of the warpfeed is not going to be in the way of a user's forearm. SO I don't think it's really going to matter much, except where and at what angle you have your warp hose exiting your warpless hopper. But, for that reason and because different hoppers are shaped differently, and have a feed tube positioned differently on the bottom, even though it may be perfectly fine to have the hopper sit back by the grip, it also may be better to have some flexibility.

I do like the fact that the sample CAD looks to have a clamping bracket kind of like a Kapp drop (I used a modified version of that with my first warpless Halo). That is a better solution than drilling a hole in a piece of 1/8" thick aluminum bar and putting tape or a clamp on the bottom of the hopper.

[Justus]

Anyone with 3D printer access and knowhow have any ideas on what it might be like to print up an upward feed diverter that works well with warpfeed hose? I'm thinking of something that will drop in with just two holes drilled, and will keep the warp hose pressed into place kind of like the way the newer 90* black Qloader elbows work.

Googled pic:

qloader-hoseadap.jpeg

[Justus]

Luke, any chance of getting any of those brackets made before LL7 (weekend of May 17)? I don't know what you're thinking on timetable.

[luke]

I will make them but I wont stock them on the shelves. It would have to be an order of 25 to get the project done. Paid projects go to the top of the list. Price would be a little more than my current warpfeed brackets because they wont be a stock item.

[Justus]

Sweet. Im going to have to try this.. I have a prophecy laying around. If there was a demand for it, maybe we could come up with 3d printed loader trays for various loaders that feed up.

From what I've seen, now that I have a Z2 in-hand, is a minimum of two parts needing to be replaced.

The first is the "slide", shown here:
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The slide allows the paint to feed downward. It would need redone to cause the paint to feed upward.

The second piece is the "outlet cover", shown here:
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The outlet cover mirrors the original slide, and also contains the anti-jam freeway. It would need redone to cause the paint to feed upward.

Ideally, those pieces could be formed into one 3D printed part and would be angled at about 45* toward the right-hand side of the shell to accommodate the mod. Then, to make the system really drop-in, a new floor could be printed with a hole in the proper spot, to allow the newly printed slide/outlet cover to fit through. Or, of course, you could require people to just drill a hole in their existing floor at just the right spot.

Here's a pic of the "floor":
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Once this is done, the internals would be modified for upward feeding, and all that would need to be done to complete the mod is to drill a hole in your shell of choice (normal/high-cap/whatever color) and feed some warp hose through. The warp hose would need to fit over the newly designed slide/outlet piece, snugly, just like it does with the newer qloader 90* angle connections like I posted before.



If someone were really interested in redoing these parts and having them printed, I'd be super interested in purchasing them to have a perfectly clean mod done. If not, then copper pipe and a dremel it is!

[Syko89]

Got the 240 shells and with the release clip up higher the feed tube doesn't interfere with it.

[BigEvil]

Got the 240 shells and with the release clip up higher the feed tube doesn't interfere with it.

Im curious to see your mounting bracket

[Syko89]

1/8th inch aluminum stock.







sprayed with rhino liner. Will redone when I anno the lowers

[BigEvil]

Nice. Thanks. I gotta get busy.

[Syko89]

Nice. Thanks. I gotta get busy.

Looking forward to seeing what you come up with.

[BigEvil]

Looking forward to seeing what you come up with.

I am a huge fan of the warp concept but so hate the extra pound it adds to the gun.

[Justus]

I am a huge fan of the warp concept but so hate the extra pound it adds to the gun.

Agreed. And it makes the gun sit so awkwardly, you can't put it down easily.

[Loguzzzzzz]

I have a bracket I have been developing. I will post up a Solidworks pic when I can get to the computer that has it!

[BigEvil]

I have a bracket I have been developing. I will post up a Solidworks pic when I can get to the computer that has it!

About time there you passive troublemaker you!

[Syko89]

I have a bracket I have been developing. I will post up a Solidworks pic when I can get to the computer that has it!

I'd be interested