Who Thinks That Hopper and Gun Hits Should be Outlawed for all Games?

[Vex]

I'm not telling you that people don't aim for guns or hoppers...sheesh! I wish people would read, or re-read, the ENTIRE post before saying that I'm stupid (in not so many words) It IS very difficult to only aim at guns/hoppers and have a high hit average--unless you play with a bunch of statues.

[MikeCouves]

I agree. I always try to get someone that is poking out of the bunker. It works alot of the time! The hopper is a large part of the marker can be used by the opponent to take you out. The person with the hopper sticking out has to stay tight to the bunker as much as they can.

It should definately be legal!

[Predater]

i aim for what i see. if a hopper is all thats there i shoot at it. and i have reread your last post and it still sounds like you said noone aims at guns. im not trying to flaim you, i just thaught thats what you ment.

[Hysperion]

Originally posted by Phazeshifter... "No one can honestly say that they aim for hoppers or guns on purpose and hit them with complete accuracy--and if you do say that, then I will argue that you are an uneducated fool."

I'd argue you are the fool. How many times have you played paintball? I'm guessing not that often. If you have you would realize that people tend to stay behind obstacles. Unlike real bullets, paintballs DO NOT penetrate obstacles, therefore you aim at what you can see, not where center mass is. Usually, you see the hopper or their goggles. WHY? Well maybe because that's all they stick out when they want to shoot at you! I can't stand places where gun/hand hits dont count, all that means is that I stick my gun around the bunker and lay down a cloud of paint. Anyone here who has played paintball in any tournament or any competitive form will agree with me. This whole thread is utterly pointless. And the only people who don't want hand hits to count own classic mags, or worse and play 1ce a month or less.

[Cypres0099]

I'll tell you why gun hits shouuld count. With my warp I have no hopper to protect my head!

Seriously though, when I play paintball I would say that nearly half of the people I hit, I hit in the gun or hopper. It's just how we play that never really exposes anything but a bit of our masks and our guns. I simply despise playing no gun hits.

I was playing at a local field once and my entire team was eliminated except me. So I was in this creek, it's half speedball half woods, with 5 people on me and they were all unloading, and no they weren't newbies they all had "good" guns. I hit two of them in the hopper and they thought we weren't playing hopper hits. So what happens? They all pop their guns over the top of their bunkers while I countinuously pop them in the hopper, and I get lit up.

So that's my personal I hate no gun/hopper hits story.

[Blennidae]

Phazeshifter:

As you can see the overwhelming opinion is that gun/hopper hits should and do count. They always have and always will. Its part of the game. Everyone aims for whatever is exposed. If you dangle your foot out from an obstacle and I can see it, I'll try my best to hit it. The same goes for any other part of your equipment. If you dont like hopper hits, get a warp feed, thats really all you can do to avoid them.

[HoppysMag]

Hysperion whatch what you say...I have a classic mag. and i support the gun hits. so why do you assume that classic mags dont want gun hits... im interested to know. i mean its kinda obvious i support gun hits, and hey look at my sig, in BIG BLUE letters it says, and i quote
68 Automag
Are we a little prejudice? i find this very offensive. Please respond..

And the only people who don't want hand hits to count own classic mags, or worse and play 1ce a month or less.

whats that suposed to mean.. i want to know..


EDIT: Im not actualy al that mad, but i would like to know why you said that?

[Nitroduck]

Hopper and gun hits should count. If they didnt, you could just blind shoot all day and never get called out. Who wants a world like that? If you hate gun hits, DONT STICK SO MUCH OF THE GUN OUT OF THE BUNKER. I've been playing for 4 years and havent got more than 2 gun hits in my life....Why? I dont stick it out of the bunker unless Im snap shooting, and when I shoot, all that sticks out is the barrel.

Phaseshifter, whos the un-educated fool? I know many people that aim specifically for the hopper. Why? Half the time thats the one thing that sticks out of a bunker when you shoot.

I know tons of people that aim only for the hopper. Why? Its the only place that you can shoot and it'll break 99% of the time....Why not exploit that fact?

[Wayland Fong]

i just wanna put in my 2 cents. when i first started playing paintball, i felt the same way you did. i felt cheesed by those lame hopper hits. but since then, i've changed my mind. this is my reasoning.

if you play recreational paintball, its mostly meant to imitate wargames. and in a real battle, having your weapon shot usually means that it is broken and you are as good as dead. you may not actually die, but as far as the enemy is concerned, you're out of the fight and thats what matters. (btw, i refer to it as a "weapon", because we don't say "gun" in the Army. and neither does the Marine Corps.)

if you play tournament paintball, hopper hits promotes snap shooting standoffs. if the opposing player is shooting at you, most of his otherwise exposed portion of his body (mostly shoulders and head) is behind his gun. there is very little that you can actually shoot if gun and hopper hits don't count. this makes snap shooting someone out of the game extremely difficult. if you can't shoot anyone out, you can't make openings for movement. games would be extremely slow.

so there you have it. that is why gun and hopper hits should count. if you can't deal with getting eliminated with a "cheap" shot, learn to snap shoot better. its that simple.

[MajorDamage]

I think they SHOULD count, I mean most of the time people get hit in the mask or gun/hopper. If you know how to play right you will barely ever leave yourself open for a hit anywhere else, except when like changing bunkers and stuff. Games would go on forever without them.

ENDO!

[RT_Luver]

Originally posted by OldSchoolMag
But, paintball is a war-simulating game. If you're going to do it, do it right.

Besides, why drop gun/hopper hits? And if you do, why stop there? Nobody likes pack hits either, let's drop those. And hey, I hate it when some guy gogs me, I only wear 'em because I HAVE to, so they're gone too! And chlothes, don't get me started! My philosophy is if you take it on the field with you, and it gets shot - you're out. Pack, gun, hopper, etc. If you don't want it hit TUCK IN, or DON'T BRING IT OUT THERE! Other than that, good luck!

OSM

I agree totally...couldn't have said it better

[MagMan5446]

Buy a damn warp feed and quit complaining.

[nutz]

a hit is a hit...

ppl are right it would slow down the game alot...

another point to bring up is that it would cause many arguements between players and refs... like if ur totaly clean but theres a hit right by ur trigger frame and ur thumb has a little bit of shell and paint on it so its not clear where it hit... i know this doesnt happen often but it does happen and people would for sure argue about that... i just dont see it doing anything good for the game, i think hopper hits just up the level of skill and precision needed to become the best at what u do

hehe 1000th post

im not celebrating

[Miscue]

If this were the case, I'd get a really big hopper and use the dang thing as a shield.

[FooTemps]

Originally posted by Miscue
If this were the case, I'd get a really big hopper and use the dang thing as a shield.

Already said that cue...