Introducing The Deflator

[luke]

Which technically makes this a *simpler* part than an Angel detent. So switching to Angel detents would contradict KISS, and you would have ... a conundrum.

I was only pointing out that if for some reason down the road my detent was unavailable the marker wont become a paper weight.

Is the T15 detent rubber? It doesn't seem like it would work with force feed hoppers(?)

[Spider-TW]

You lost me I was 2 in 1970.

Sorry, my father had a import car shop. Have you ever noticed all of the little parts in an Angel? Very much like a TR. Rather than making a single complicated part, or simplifying a design, the Brits were known for using lots of parts and fasteners of unique specs. A detent made from a dozen parts would be very British.

Back then there was no amount of time that would get you where custom CNC and printing does now. "Simple" itself has changed.

[luke]

No I never dug into the Angel myself but had friends that did.

I see you're in TX, how do you like it in general? I've been looking to move there myself but really don't know much about the state. I've only been in the pan handle never down in the lower part of the state. I've been basing my searches in the Waco and Austin areas, I'm looking for acreage in the country not in town.

[GoatBoy]

I was only pointing out that if for some reason down the road my detent was unavailable the marker wont become a paper weight.

Is the T15 detent rubber? It doesn't seem like it would work with force feed hoppers(?)

I think Spider got it -- it's simply that the idea of "simple" has changed.

The stock Tiberius detents (T8.9/9.1/15) appear to be some form of synthetic rubber.

They work totally fine against force feed hoppers, in fact, in my opinion they're too damn stiff and I suspect contribute to paint breakage.

They're also WTF expensive.

Which is why people ask me to print them a pile. They're an easy print, and I can also vary the stiffness a bit by switching materials. Hell I have two filaments that are supposed to be the same base material and durometer, just different pigments, but I swear the pigments changed the durometer between the two.



The two on the left are printed, the 3rd one is the genuine article.

[luke]

How long do they last?

[GoatBoy]

How long do they last?

I don't have much data on that as I'm a pretty low volume user. I sent some out for other people to test, should chase them down. Suspect they are comparable if not slightly better than Tippmann detents.

The material itself (TPU) is very durable. Most likely failure mode would be splitting at the print layers.

[luke]

Full assembly to help put the body in perspective.



This setup gave me a great idea that would translate into two new products, biggest obstacle would be figuring out how to machine it. It's as low as #4 or #5 on the list though.

[going_home]

Still thinking on this.

I have a reverse Xvalve to go in it.

1) How many parts would need to be anodized for the full deal (I will get a price from Mario at FX) ?

2) Would you send them directly to the anodizer and assemble it when he is done (I would send you the valve) ?

[luke]

Drop shipping to your anodizing guy is doable if you set it all up. I can assemble and test too.

Ano parts list
Body
Carrier- (hidden)
Left grip
Right grip
Grip frame
Trigger
Feedneck ring- (hidden)
Feed Cup
FG-LPR top
FG-LPR bottom
FG-LPR (inner) reg top- (hidden)

I believe that's it.

[psunitro]

Small update.

Ohhh my thats pretty.

[luke]

Makin the donuts.
Should finish these cycles up around 10pm tonight or tomorrow if I peter out.

[luke]

Didn't get out of the shop until 11:30 last night but I finished up the first two steps in production of the slug bodies. I'm doing two sizes in this run.

Not sure if you guys are interested in seeing production pictures but here's where were at as of this morining:



Next step is to tear down this setup and set-up the machine for step three. I'm planing on doing that today but probably not much more.

[BIG BOB]

Drop shipping to your anodizing guy is doable if you set it all up. I can assemble and test too.

Ano parts list
Body
Carrier
Left grip
Right grip
Grip frame
Trigger
Neck ring
Neck main
FG-LPR top
FG-LPR Bottom
FG-LPR (inner) reg top

I believe thats it.

Will some of those parts be hidden? I only ask for anodizing reasons. If it's hidden it wont necessarily need the matching ano job, it will just need to be properly sealed

[luke]

Will some of those parts be hidden? I only ask for anodizing reasons. If it's hidden it wont necessarily need the matching ano job, it will just need to be properly sealed

Good question, yes. I'll update the first post.

[psunitro]

Please, post as much as you can/want of the whole process.