Anyone interested in a magfed body?

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  • river031403
    Registered User
    • Feb 2011
    • 1080

    #16
    I'm interested for sure
    http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...errerid=144073

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    • renie
      Registered User

      • Oct 2011
      • 445

      #17
      got a mag coming to me this week ill measure it up and see what works :)

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      • Spider-TW
        U R techno-literate!

        • Oct 2006
        • 3554

        #18
        Are you going into the bottom or the side?

        Bottom paint entry seems to need a new frame.

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        • renie
          Registered User

          • Oct 2011
          • 445

          #19
          cross that bridge once I come to it :) need to draw up the magwell 1st then see what positioning is like

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          • knownothingmags
            RKM 3D Designs

            • Apr 2010
            • 4810

            #20
            make it top mount. lol
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            • going_home
              Hebrews 13:8

              • Dec 2004
              • 8343

              #21
              Originally posted by knownothingmags
              make it top mount. lol
              Um.

              No.

              Left mag or right mag.


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              • knownothingmags
                RKM 3D Designs

                • Apr 2010
                • 4810

                #22
                Originally posted by going_home
                Um.

                No.

                Left mag or right mag.


                top mount gravity feed.
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                • going_home
                  Hebrews 13:8

                  • Dec 2004
                  • 8343

                  #23
                  Originally posted by knownothingmags
                  top mount gravity feed.
                  That's called a hopper.


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                  • bowcycle
                    Registered User

                    • Apr 2012
                    • 733

                    #24
                    Originally posted by renie
                    cross that bridge once I come to it :) need to draw up the magwell 1st then see what positioning is like
                    on my bottom fed using DAM mags, I turned the magwell backwards to get the mags as far to the back as possible. This made frame fabrication a necessity. However, if you're willing to have the front of the mag line up with the front of the rail, it might work without all the extra work.

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                    • mpsd
                      Crazy Brazilian P8Baller

                      • Nov 2005
                      • 2778

                      #25
                      I'm interested.

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                      • knownothingmags
                        RKM 3D Designs

                        • Apr 2010
                        • 4810

                        #26
                        Originally posted by going_home
                        That's called a hopper.


                        oh yeah that's right.
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                        • vintage
                          Registered User

                          • Aug 2013
                          • 1787

                          #27
                          the tipx zeta mag would make for a more sten looking set up for a side feed but they are $25.00 a piece whereas the DAM mags are that price for 2.

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                          • knownothingmags
                            RKM 3D Designs

                            • Apr 2010
                            • 4810

                            #28
                            you can have a magazine that is in a more forward position, so that you don't have to modify the frame.
                            the part that needs to be remade is the BOLT it needs to be longer.
                            for this you just move the feed port and threading for the barrel and detents forward effectively making the body longer.

                            how do I know this?
                            I helped a Hawaiian Machinist pretty well known in paintball, to do extensive testing while I was back in California.
                            this is very doable since I have held that working marker in my hands and fired it.

                            he also made the body setup look almost exactly like and AR-15. this was of course all done on a manual mill, except for of course the inside body boring was done on his manual lathe(s) not sure which one. of his two.

                            he did not use DAM mags he used another mag that worked very well. not sure the name sorry.
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                            • GoatBoy
                              Junior Mint
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 1399

                              #29
                              Making a new bolt is kind of where things die though. No magazine system is going to make me give up my LX bolt.

                              The price difference between DAM and Zeta mags doesn't seem to be a significant differentiator. I've seen you guys dump more money on more frivolous stuff.

                              Main differences:

                              1. Geometry; profiles are slightly different, and some are better for certain situations, it just varies.
                              2. DAM mags are more "protected".
                              3. Zeta mags solve the "3rd hand reload" problem. You can reload a live mag, on gun, while still having a gun that is up and ready. Trickier to do with a DAM since the second half is covered up in the mag well.

                              Speaking from personal experience, a sten-style gun isn't really that fun. It is the simplest and most compatible configuration though.

                              I think you would get the most mileage out of a sane side-feed mag body. Leave the specific magwell off as a separate piece, that way you can switch between DAM or TIPX or even a rotary FSR loader. You can also warp/q-loader it or put a spring feed on it. Remember: less is more. You make a fancy machined 1-piece body with the mag well built in, then that is *all* that body will ever be good for (and perhaps not even that).

                              Easiest route would essentially be a stainless body, cut a through-hole feed port straight through it so you get both left and right feed orientations in the same body, and two weld nuts on top for accessories.

                              I know it would never fly though.
                              "Accuracy by aiming."


                              Definitely not on the A-Team.

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                              • knownothingmags
                                RKM 3D Designs

                                • Apr 2010
                                • 4810

                                #30
                                Originally posted by GoatBoy
                                Making a new bolt is kind of where things die though. No magazine system is going to make me give up my LX bolt.

                                The price difference between DAM and Zeta mags doesn't seem to be a significant differentiator. I've seen you guys dump more money on more frivolous stuff.

                                Main differences:

                                1. Geometry; profiles are slightly different, and some are better for certain situations, it just varies.
                                2. DAM mags are more "protected".
                                3. Zeta mags solve the "3rd hand reload" problem. You can reload a live mag, on gun, while still having a gun that is up and ready. Trickier to do with a DAM since the second half is covered up in the mag well.

                                Speaking from personal experience, a sten-style gun isn't really that fun. It is the simplest and most compatible configuration though.

                                I think you would get the most mileage out of a sane side-feed mag body. Leave the specific magwell off as a separate piece, that way you can switch between DAM or TIPX or even a rotary FSR loader. You can also warp/q-loader it or put a spring feed on it. Remember: less is more. You make a fancy machined 1-piece body with the mag well built in, then that is *all* that body will ever be good for (and perhaps not even that).

                                Easiest route would essentially be a stainless body, cut a through-hole feed port straight through it so you get both left and right feed orientations in the same body, and two weld nuts on top for accessories.

                                I know it would never fly though.
                                that's what we created was a longer lvl 10
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