New Nummech Gas Thru Frame

[going_home]

I'm pretty sure with as many nice asa's as there is on the market he wouldnt make one that doesnt bleed the air.

[knownothingmags]

You never know some things get over looked. 😁

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[Nobody]

But is it a decent Asa? So I don't have to shoot to unscrew the tank?

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I am sure about that. Nowadays, having the ASA that can bleed the tank out should be about standard.

I would have to see more of thd ASA and where the line pickup is, but i would assume that if you were industrious, that you can use any of the Tslot ASAs that are now coming out, especially the EZ ASA from Inception Designs.

[Ydna]

I would put a gun to my head before selling a non-bleeding ASA :) but seriously, it's just a straightforward "on/off knob" ASA, ultra reliable and time-tested. It's also literally the cheapest and simplest type of bleeding ASA to manufacture, so costs are kept down.

The frame can be used with a #10-32 bolt-on or T-slot ASA if you don't want to use the internal air routing. Remember the goal is for anyone to buy the base frame without the frills, and be able to use it with existing gas-thru foregrips or homebrew pneumag valves without buying the nummech kit (or if you want to leave the option open for later). But in order to do that, the frame needs to be compatible with bolt-on ASA's along with the superior T-slot ASA mounting method, along with the frame-routed air supply. But...there aren't any existing high pressure ASAs out there that fulfill all those goals, so we came up with a new one that could do it while still maintaining compatibility with all those other mounting systems. And it'll be compatible with hypothetical gas-thru accessories when the time comes (another thing people have requested).

Anyway I hope that illuminates some of the unknowns. If you wish I can take some pictures of the ASA for more info. (although remember some features will change)

[Nobody]

I would put a gun to my head before selling a non-bleeding ASA :) but seriously, it's just a straightforward "on/off knob" ASA, ultra reliable and time-tested. It's also literally the cheapest and simplest type of bleeding ASA to manufacture, so costs are kept down.

The frame can be used with a #10-32 bolt-on or T-slot ASA if you don't want to use the internal air routing. Remember the goal is for anyone to buy the base frame without the frills, and be able to use it with existing gas-thru foregrips or homebrew pneumag valves without buying the nummech kit (or if you want to leave the option open for later). But in order to do that, the frame needs to be compatible with bolt-on ASA's along with the superior T-slot ASA mounting method, along with the frame-routed air supply. But...there aren't any existing high pressure ASAs out there that fulfill all those goals, so we came up with a new one that could do it while still maintaining compatibility with all those other mounting systems. And it'll be compatible with hypothetical gas-thru accessories when the time comes (another thing people have requested).

Anyway I hope that illuminates some of the unknowns. If you wish I can take some pictures of the ASA for more info. (although remember some features will change)

Gun p0rn is always welcome.

But only till you are ready to share them. I too agree with the T-slot being far better than any other design. But, i personally never dealt with a POPs ASA & don't know the routing of the EZ ASA to say that at this time, to safely say that you could tap them to replace the one there. It would be assume to be able to, but we will have to wait for those production models.

[BigEvil]

Im trying to talk YDNA into making an manifold that fits between the asa and the frame that is 1/8 npt tapped on 3 sides to accommodate all of us schmucks that want to run a looping hose or other air set up

[Loguzzzzzz]

If it didnt come with the asa we'd have to pay someone to mod them so its actually better IMHO.

. . . and that is a problem. . .

[Loguzzzzzz]

Perfect candidate for a clean little hard line set up IMO

[jarhead86]

Perfect candidate for a clean little hard line set up IMO

Exactly my thoughts, one little piece between ccm fittings. Easiest way to disassemble and reassemble. So I need some hardline. Who's got some?

[Nobody]

Exactly my thoughts, one little piece between ccm fittings. Easiest way to disassemble and reassemble. So I need some hardline. Who's got some?

CCM fittings? Why do you want it to leak?

[jarhead86]

CCM fittings? Why do you want it to leak?

I haven't had issues with them yet, do they not work with hardline?

[Ydna]

Here's the frame mounting:

The air input hole is at the bottom of the T-slot rail, which seals against the ASA's top rail that protrudes upward (pic below). If you're using the T-slot rail with a typical ASA, you'd be using set screws that tighten downward and push the ASA downward. That's kinda troublesome for frame-routed air supplies since the sealing ASA wants to be pulled "toward" the frame in order to seal its o-ring. Standard ASAs don't care, they just slide on and get locked down somehow, but the sealing ASAs are more picky about the design there.

Anyway here's the prototype ASA and knob: (many details are going to change, but the basic design will stay the same).

The crossed-out holes are just used during the manufacturing process, so they don't do anything IRL.

[knownothingmags]

Did we answer will this fit on a am/mm length rail with a forgrip attached?

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[Nobody]

Hmmm, interesting. Is the mounting required to have 4 lock down screws, or is that just an option?

Also, i know with the Inception EZ ASA, it was specifically designed to work with both pin and ball style reg bonnets. Have you experienced any problems with this? By looking at the design(following a more traditional, older style that had no problems), i suspect it shouldn't but assurance/confirmation from the designer is always a good thing.

[Laku]

I haven't had issues with them yet, do they not work with hardline?

They work. Haven't had any problems with them.