New Nummech Gas Thru Frame

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  • Apathetic_Chaos
    Registered User
    • Mar 2017
    • 229

    #46
    I'd give the frame a shot, seems interesting

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    • going_home
      Hebrews 13:8

      • Dec 2004
      • 8343

      #47
      Originally posted by Loguzzzzzz
      Perfect candidate for a clean little hard line set up IMO

      Great idea and it wouldn't look bad straight up from the frame, then 90 degrees straight back to the valve.

      It'd be nice if he could supply that and the fittings that work with the line.

      Even better if the line is black and the fittings.


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      • jarhead86
        Registered User

        • Oct 2009
        • 98

        #48
        Originally posted by Laku
        They work. Haven't had any problems with them.
        Do you need to put o rings in them or anything special? Just want to learn so I don't have any issues.

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        • Laku
          Registered User

          • Nov 2012
          • 940

          #49
          New Nummech Gas Thru Frame

          Originally posted by jarhead86
          Do you need to put o rings in them or anything special? Just want to learn so I don't have any issues.
          If the hardline length is right and OD (1/4") is right then you can use just as they are.
          If you cut the hardline smidge too short then you can just add extra o-ring to make it seal a little earlier.
          Someone had problem with the OD of his hardline, but that can be solved with little thicker o-ring instead of the standard one.
          Last edited by Laku; 04-19-2017, 11:00 PM.

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          • Ydna
            Paintball Manufacturer

            • Apr 2004
            • 264

            #50
            I've bee looking into options on the hardline. Not sure what will happen there though, since different people want different stuffs.

            Originally posted by Nobody
            Hmmm, interesting. Is the mounting required to have 4 lock down screws, or is that just an option?
            Also, i know with the Inception EZ ASA, it was specifically designed to work with both pin and ball style reg bonnets. Have you experienced any problems with this? By looking at the design(following a more traditional, older style that had no problems), i suspect it shouldn't but assurance/confirmation from the designer is always a good thing.
            The 4-screw method isn't required but I find it to be easier for mounting since the screws are closer to the sides of the frame. Even if you use straigth allen keys (no ball-rounded ends) it doesn't take much effort to screw them in since they're easily accessible.

            Yeah I know the problem you're describing on the pin valves. I've complained about that many times in the past. There isn't a standard for the exact length of a tank bonnet, so the pin valves are positioned all over the place. I've measured LOTS of tank bonnets trying to make parts that will work with everything.
            Here's a picture that shows a dozen different tank bonnets including a Ninja (both v1 and v2). Going from a Crossfire to a Ninja to a Valken may be enough to cause problems with some ASAs, depending on how they were built. what a headache!

            Usually what we do (historically) is make the ASA knob's pin-valve-opener work with the stubbiest of tanks, which functions for just about anything, including the Ninja ball valve. Fortunately they don't need to be depressed very far to reach great flow, no problem there.
            I've heard of tanks that can be opened "too far", depending on how its pin valve is designed. I think the old System-X tanks were like that but I may be wrong.

            But anyway, the important thing is that even if you need to modify the ASA knob, it's not a big deal since all you need do is carefully file off some length on the pin opener with a hand file. Worst case scenario is too much material is removed, but nummech can sell just the knob for replacement.
            Andy "Ydna" DuBuc
            Nummech Products & ZDSPB

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            • Patron God of Pirates
              ~pgop1.0
              • Apr 2002
              • 1196

              #51
              As an alternative to the hard line, and for a tighter cleaner look overall... Since you know the fixed distance between the frame port and the valve port, would it be possible to make a male/female setup that didn't require pain in the ass macro?

              trike so:
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              • jarhead86
                Registered User

                • Oct 2009
                • 98

                #52
                All I need to know is when? How much? And where do I send my money

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                • BigEvil
                  www.BigEvilOnline.com

                  • Feb 2005
                  • 9333

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Tunaman
                  The M90 was nicer. Proprietary ASA? Who needs that. Just telling you what I see. I do not see anything revolutionary. And it doesnt look like it will be inexpensive either. I am not knocking the design. Ingenious stuff here.
                  When Andy is all said and done, this might revitalize the entire mag scene. Especially when the first NXL team shoots them and they obliterate their opposition.

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                  • djinnform
                    Rental Hunter

                    • Mar 2009
                    • 651

                    #54
                    what macro line hose color will i choose?

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                    • djinnform
                      Rental Hunter

                      • Mar 2009
                      • 651

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Patron God of Pirates
                      As an alternative to the hard line, and for a tighter cleaner look overall... Since you know the fixed distance between the frame port and the valve port, would it be possible to make a male/female setup that didn't require pain in the ass macro?

                      trike so:
                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]93778[/ATTACH]
                      cool idea, mini hard line

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                      • Nobody
                        Nobody's Perfect
                        • Oct 2001
                        • 3384

                        #56
                        Originally posted by djinnform
                        what macro line hose color will i choose?
                        Neon green or any colour that will clash

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                        • captian pinky
                          Bearded Works

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 2755

                          #57
                          Originally posted by djinnform
                          cool idea, mini hard line
                          problem being that it isnt the same height and is actually offset a fair amount.

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                          • tippmannhunter8
                            Where's the money Lebowski
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 556

                            #58
                            just lmk when the pre order starts. This is going on the minimag
                            My feedback: http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=160440

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                            • cockerpunk
                              Haters Gonna Hate
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 1383

                              #59
                              it would require pulling out the pin in the valve, but doing a banjo bolt like the classic RT to mount the valve, would be even cleaner.

                              that would be awesome, a totally hoseless mag.
                              "because every vengeful cop with a lesbian daughter, is having a bad day, and looking for someone to blame"

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                              • Apathetic_Chaos
                                Registered User
                                • Mar 2017
                                • 229

                                #60
                                If I could make my classic RT completely hoseless sign me up now

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