this has gone to far!!!

[Hysperion]

Lastly, no laws banning kissing in public come to my mind...and personally if I was making out with my girlfriend and someone came up to me and asked me to go do it somewhere else, I'd probably give him a funny look and tell him to stay out of my business. I have a funny story about something similiar too. I was "making out" with my girlfriend in the middle seat of my suburban in the park (truck has deep tinted windows). Anyways some guy in a beat up civic pulls up in the parking spot next to us. About 5 mins later he gets in his car. I looked up and he saw me. So he backs up and drives to the other side of my truck. Then he gets out and walks around to the front of my truck and tries peeking through the front window. By now I'm sitting up and my girlfriend is still lying down (obviously we weren't doing anything, why would we in the middle of a busy park?). Anyways, if you know suburbans, you can't see into the middle seat very well from the front of the truck so this moron has the nerve to walk to the left side of the truck, cup his eyes and peer inside. Well he can see me sitting there so he starts to back off a bit and gives me a "thumbs up" (probably because if you compare my girlfriend to a paintball gun, she's at least a freak factory impulse )...I got out of the car and told him some expletives about what a sick mind he had and to stay out of my business. Needless to say he took off. Is this invasion of privacy? I'd say so.......

[manike]

Originally posted by PotatoBoy
I personally think that it's time to cast off this guilt most Americans have towards anything even remotely concerning sexuality.

Now that's exactly what I was trying to say but as ever was a little long winded

Sure come on over to the UK, but I'd recommend Holland or Sweden instead...

manike

[Hysperion]

I lived in the UK from the time I was 6months to 4-years old....why'd I have to move back!

[Potatoboy]

that'd involve learning a new language, with the UK I can pick up the accent in a few weeks and pick up the slang and differences fairly quickly...


All I have to do is hide my teeth and no one will know I wasn't born and bred brit

[CHl2IS]

X-Plosive - Yeah, me and a few other people have heard of the team. I'm pretty sure that they arent that good either...

Chris

[DaosBeoulve]

Personally, while I don't condone the actions this company or whatever takes, nor would I participate in anything like that myself, I consider myself VERY open-minded and see nothing really wrong with it. I always have to laugh when I hear someone talking bad about public displays of affections, no matter the party/parties involved. I mean, there's a certain level of decency that should be kept in public places, but does making out in public fall outside that level of decency? Not in my opinion. If you don't want to see or watch such things, you have the option not to. Someone hasn't glued your eyes to the scene. And if your kids see it, are you afraid of having to explain it to them? Scared to show you frown upon certain people when you try to teach equality? If I never had to go back to my hometown, it would be too soon. People there are close-minded biggots who are some of the biggest hypocrits I've ever met. Trust me, I love America, but I hate a bunch of the people here

To put it simply, I agree with Manike and Potatoboy. Suck it up guys. The company had a marketing scheme in mind. They knew the majority of the people who saw that picture would talk about it and show it around, thus getting publicity for their company. Did it work? Well, we're on the second page of this topic now, aren't we?

[Spaceman613]

Ok, I'll voice my opinion...

Do I have a problem with women in advertising? Nope

But trying to cross the lines of what will offend is cheap. If the company makes a great product, then list why its great. A leather clad woman (as much as I like them) wont get me to look at a product.

I use the JT ads as an example. Bonnie is there in a t-shirt or jacket or whatever. Looks great, nothing wrong with that in my eye. But when, the bruiser girls (Neriah Davis is an ex-playmate) just stand there with a cheap blowback, its just stating to me "We make cheap guns and we need T&A to get you to notice our product."

As for the public kissing and making out. They are two very different things. I dont have a problem with a kiss in public. It could be a 90 year old couple or a pair of 18 year old strippers, or 2 guys. Dont bother me at all. Its when they start groping, and "sucking face" that gets me a lil. If you want to make out in a bar or a club, go for it, thats why we are there (usually). But in a paintball event that has kids and the media? Or a park, or mall, or well, you get the idea.

And Manike? yes you are correct, we (US) have a double standard. Its shameful, but its there. And yes I do have a problem with SOME cheerleaders. But thats not for the public forum, If you want to know. PM me

Ok, ive rambled long enuff.

[DarkRipper]

You know, even though Europe has more open sexuality, these ads and pictures are HERE, not there. We don't have half nude women in our newspapers, Manike, why should we want our toys advertised by ugly woment in gimp costumes or whores kissing each other in public? Those women weren't in love, they did it to pimp Severe for the kiddies and the cameras... what does that make them? If not whores, then at least white trash.

That's what Severe and WDP (especially WDP) and other companies have become...

White trash.

They make good products, but their advertising is base and crass.
The marker and the paint sell themselves. They don't need white trash to advertise it.

What's next? Elvis on black velvet AIRs?

Give me a break. Big thumbs down to the guys at WDP.

DR

[beam]

This isn't about sexuality. This is about the ad tactics companies are using to sell products.

Bottom line.

Now, as far as the statement: There's no such thing as bad publicity. (this was stated by more than one so far)

What planet are you on?!?!? And we wonder why it is so hard to convince parents to let their kids play paintball. Soon, it won't be about safety....it will be about the smut.

There is such a thing as BAD publicity. Anyone who tells you differently is SELLING something. oh wait....exactly.

We also wonder why paintball isn't taken seriously as a sport. This is a prime example.

I want my son to be able to start playing this game when he is 9. NOT 21.

[DarkRipper]

Originally posted by beam
We also wonder why paintball isn't taken seriously as a sport. This is a prime example.

What he said. If I want to see ugly women in leather kissing or licking metal things suggestively, I'll go to a motorcycle and tattoo convention.

This is paintball.


DR

[Hysperion]

yeah, this is paintball, and wdp is a very big paintball company, and as long as people are buying their products and they can afford to advertise...they can do it however they'd like within the laws of this country. You guys are just acting like homophobes and you know what they say about people who do that....

[Spaceman613]

[Spaceman613]

Hypersion? how are we (most of us) acting like homophobes?

I think many of us just want paintball to be taken seriously. Maybe we should ask a real lesbian how she feels when two women kiss just to make a dollar or get attention?

Lets put 2 guys up there kissing, Id prolly RATHER see that because most guys are too afraid to do that for money.

[DarkRipper]

Originally posted by Hysperion
yeah, this is paintball, and wdp is a very big paintball company, and as long as people are buying their products and they can afford to advertise...they can do it however they'd like within the laws of this country. You guys are just acting like homophobes and you know what they say about people who do that....

I don't care what people do behind closed doors, Hysperion. But when I see gimps and whores advertising toys, I get a little put out.
They certainly ARE within their legal right to sell that way, however it's tasteless and crude, and a bad image for the sport.

Next, I don't like being called a homophobe. It's baseless and slanderous.

*EDIT* Please do not resort to threats DarkRipper, it is beneath you. Army

Thanks and have a GREAT day.

DR

[Hysperion]

Spaceman613, where do those rules apply to this?

refrain from wearing or otherwise displaying offensive
pictures, words or logos at the site where the tournament is taking place.
*Doesn't look like a picture, word, or logo to me. That's "all the way live." And I can guarantee anyone who saw that wasn't complaining. They enjoy it first, then their morality sets in a then complain afterwords, how it always goes.*

And reguards to the second rule, it says absolutely nothing about what teams sponsors can do. Besides WDP is one of the NPPL's biggest sponsors with 70% of the players shooting angels. Do you honestly think that they are going to tell WDP what to do? That's like *after sitting for 5 minutes I couldn't think of a good analogy. Oh well, someone think of one for me, I'm tired.