Hybrid RTP Rails

[luke]

Luke, what are the chances of you opening these up for one offs. I have a project I am in the initial phase of, but would love to be able to send you a body and have you do a custom rail once I get a little further along.

We can probably work something out.

[JimBobFett]

Apathetic got it. Im asking if there is a bushing/spacer to allow using an AM sear with an RTP rail & pin.

[Apathetic_Chaos]

Luke, what are the chances of you opening these up for one offs. I have a project I am in the initial phase of, but would love to be able to send you a body and have you do a custom rail once I get a little further along.

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[luke]

@jimbobfett correct me if I am wrong. But I think he is saying he has an am/mm rail and sear, but wants to buy one of these rails and be able to use his current sear.

I took it as he has an AM rail and sear and wants to turn in into a RTP setup.

[Apathetic_Chaos]

Huh?

@jimbobfett correct me if I am wrong. But I think he is saying he has an am/mm rail and sear, but wants to buy one of these rails and be able to use his current sear.

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[luke]

I agree, but im focusing here on being able to convert from an AM rail to a RTP rail without having to change from AM to RTP sear also.

Huh?

[JimBobFett]

Not that I have ever seen but I dont think the bushing is what makes it a better system, it's that the RTP pin is secured in the rail.

I agree, but im focusing here on being able to convert from an AM rail to a RTP rail without having to change from AM to RTP sear also.

[luke]

So explain something to me.

You are going away from the RTP axle screw because its too wide and the stock placement and dimensions limit the milling options. Why not just shorten the screw? Certainly an easier method while maintaining stock retention specs.

Why have 2 set screws hold down the new dowel? As far as i know, the body sandwiching the rail does keep the sear in place, even on AM/MM, which has no retention, it doesn't move. Why complicate matters with it. I am guessing that its 4-6 more operations more to make this. Which i guess, makes it longer and thus more expensive(time wise) to make?

Also, i don't forsee AGD running out of those parts and it seems like adding in extra steps for no real benefit over stock. So maybe i missed something.

The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you.

[luke]

I was going to mention 1 thing related but its not so important; is there a bushing available to place on a rtp sear pin to fill in for an am sear?

Not that I have ever seen but I dont think the bushing is what makes it a better system, it's that the RTP pin is secured in the rail.

[JimBobFett]

I was going to mention 1 thing related but its not so important; is there a bushing available to place on a rtp sear pin to fill in for an am sear?

[luke]

Why this design? Because is solves engineering issues of putting a RTP sear into an Automag rail.

Why is the sear hole drilled all the way through? So it can be removed.

[mobsterboy]

So explain something to me

You.. shall..not...PASS!!!!

I too would like to understand this move. Not saying I dont think it's cool. Just curious.
Also, if a dowel with set screws was the plan, why not make it only feed in on one side and go with one setscrew then... would have at least kept the lines cleaner on one side of the rail.

[Apathetic_Chaos]

I wouldn't mind seeing an eclipse style or even a resurrection of the OSAT.

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[luke]

Over the next few days I'm going to work out a few design ideas I have, once I get a few prototypes made I'll post a sale thread in the dealer forum. We'll start with fresh cut rails this time instead of CAD drawings like I typically do.

[luke]

So sort of like the AM rails, does anyone really use the old mag barrels with newer rails?

Yea, there's a ton of stainless bodies out there still in use, there's no reason not to support the platform, all are still valid in the market today.

What I'm getting at (and sort of what Taco might like too) is using that space instead for an alternative forgrip mount with horizontal bolt holes. Either one hole from left to right that mounts can be clipped onto, or a single longitudinal bolt hole out the front.

It's a standard feature on all the rails I make, and is part of the slug rail design. So really it's too late at this point, the slug rails were completed earlier today. If you would have caught me yesterday or early this morning I could have omitted that for you, sorry.