Hybrid RTP Rails

[Nobody]

So explain something to me.

You are going away from the RTP axle screw because its too wide and the stock placement and dimensions limit the milling options. Why not just shorten the screw? Certainly an easier method while maintaining stock retention specs.

Why have 2 set screws hold down the new dowel? As far as i know, the body sandwiching the rail does keep the sear in place, even on AM/MM, which has no retention, it doesn't move. Why complicate matters with it. I am guessing that its 4-6 more operations more to make this. Which i guess, makes it longer and thus more expensive(time wise) to make?

Also, i don't forsee AGD running out of those parts and it seems like adding in extra steps for no real benefit over stock. So maybe i missed something.

[Gundam V]

I still use those old mag barrels. In the process of getting a couple of stainless bodies for them. The fact that Luke is making them is a godsend for me.

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[JimBobFett]

That is the twist lock pin hole for stainless steel body barrels.

So sort of like the AM rails, does anyone really use the old mag barrels with newer rails?

What I'm getting at (and sort of what Taco might like too) is using that space instead for an alternative forgrip mount with horizontal bolt holes. Either one hole from left to right that mounts can be clipped onto, or a single longitudinal bolt hole out the front.

[Taco303]

Ultralight Hybrid

The old style was a little narrow at .65" wide and left a little gap on a standard frame between the frame and rail. I widened this to .75" so it will match exact to the grip frame. I was also able to do away with the center bumps that were there for the sear pin.

I'd love one of these in 9"(ule body length)and slot milled.
Maybe make the foregrip area contoured to an emag battery housing or your lot grip

[luke]

Slug rails are done, I'll get a dealer thread up for anyone looking to get a new rail.

[knownothingmags]

Twistloc mechanical pin for bodies that use twistloc barrels
Edit Haha luke beat me to it

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[luke]

That is the twist lock pin hole for stainless steel body barrels.

[JimBobFett]

More of an automag question in general, but I don't think I've ever used the hole marked "?" What is that for anyways?

[luke]

Sounds good. Just out of curiosity... does this length mesh up well with the z, z2, m90 & y-grips? I'd look for myself but Im working away from home for the week.

Intellies, MV's, LCMP90 will fit the Mini Ultra. As for the other's you'll have the ask the designers if they matched Intelli spec for the trigger guard length. The Z2 'TOP' matches the Intelli length but the trigger guard juts out past the end.

Just use the Intelli as the base measurements for all other frames.

[JimBobFett]

It looks like there will be 14 mini slugs made, that is as long as the machining gods don't step in between now and the completion and demand their cut. (lol) There will be no leeway in length, over-all length will finish at 5.69" and will be flush to the front of Intelli style grip frames.

Sounds good. Just out of curiosity... does this length mesh up well with the z, z2, m90 & y-grips? I'd look for myself but Im working away from home for the week.

[luke]

It looks like there will be 14 mini slugs made, that is as long as the machining gods don't step in between now and the completion and demand their cut. (lol) There will be no leeway in length, over-all length will finish at 5.69" and will be flush to the front of Intelli style grip frames.

[awo702]

hit me up when the thread goes up in the dealer forum in the next day or two. I'm only making a few of the short slugs so you'll need to gets dibs up front as I plan on making the ones I posted. I'm not going to make it a habit of doing these little rails without the valve groove at the back.

[luke]

It will have to be a one-off, hit me up when the thread goes up in the dealer forum in the next day or two. I'm only making a few of the short slugs so you'll need to gets dibs up front as I plan on making the ones I posted. I'm not going to make it a habit of doing these little rails without the valve groove at the back.

[JimBobFett]

Yup, Im cool with a gap. I was thinking making it bigger to make it look like less of an accident and more of a design element... then adding rows of 1/4-3/8" holes along where the sear is, windowing it... a 'skeletonized' rail.

[luke]

I was going to mill down an rt pro rail to make that... but i was going to go to 1/2" wide around the sear slot

I would love to see the ultralight rail with flat sides all the way to the back the width of the minivert frame, no lock pin channel, and keep the round up front that would work a standard winged mag ASA. Also the length of an RT to keep the grips spread out

The picture below explains both inquiries about making the rail narrower than the grip frame and also putting an Automag doveltail detail to the bottom of the Ultra Mini Rail (The grip frame in the picture is a Mini Vert).
The top of the rail is the same width as the grip frame, that's the gap I'm talking about, it's even worse on my newer frames because the trigger guard does not step down in front like the Intelli and MV frames.

I'm discontinuing all Automag rails once my inventory is gone because no one is making winged frames anymore and the Automag sear and pin is an inferior design on the high performance end of Mag designs. The Hybird Rail design is an attempt to retain the attractiveness of the Automag rail but fits modern frames properly and perform on the high end. We're loosing the ASA mount but no one is making winged frames anymore, it does not make sense to continue to support that platform, maybe DW can update his design(?). Personally I like the taller AM ASA over the factory RTP ASA, so in antisipation of making the move to the Hybrid rail I released the new RTP style ASA's. AM rails dont sell well at all, it just no longer makes sense to rent shelf space to them any more.