The Best Ways To Cheat ?

[danEboy]

I'm trying to find out the ways that cheaters cheat and the best ways for Refs ( Such as myself ) to stop this activity.

I'm hoping to build a definitive list, and distribute it to every ref at my local fields.

I'll Start.

Sliding -- While an integral part of the game. I have witnessed players slide into a bunker to remove paint from their lower regions.

Smudging ( at least that's what we call it) -- where a player will rub up against a "nasty" bunker to cover and thus conceal a mark. Seems to be used on most body parts.


Thanks for your help.


Dan

[FordPrefect]

While I have never seen this in action, I have thought of someone doing this. There are these things that JT makes that go onto your lenses, and you are supposed to use them when you have a lot of splatter on your lenses, and you rip them off. But if you get gogged, someone could rip it off, and play on.

[nutz]

ive seen ppl smear hits with their tanks

[Jonno06]

wiping.....

whenever you check someone who is hit,they try to cover it up by getting really tight...

i am also a ref...and hate people who cheat,especially when its a rec game.

[BradPalooza]

I've seen hopper hits rubbed off against the bunker as they "change sides".
-Brad

[HoppysMag]

i ref'ed today and i saw one kid jump back grab his leg and rub his leg with his hand. then he wiped his hand on the bunker. i walked up to him and asked if he was hit, he said " Uhh.. no i dont think so, i didnt feel anything" this is like 5 seconds after i saw him jump back in pain and rub his leg. as i saw it from behind i did not see if it broke on impact but im sure he cheated.

[Tack]

Keep your eyes on players in or near a source of water. I have a friend who likes to stay near water so if he is hit in the legs or feet all he has to do is dunk his leg into the water and let the paint wash off.

Also, I will say that if you are reffing when there are famous players or other celebs in our sport like magazine editors or the like, don't give them any brakes because of their fame. I was playing in a tourney where the editor of a large paintball mag was playing. I hit the editor with about three shots including one in the left sholder. When the ref checked the paint hit was smeared and the editor stated that it was from leaning up against a bunker that was covered in paint. Because this person was famous the reff let the call stand and they were able to keep playing.

[pip_999]

yeah

yeah the old walk into walls trick, or when players rub off on eachother, not seen much of this

but it happens

[BTAutoMag]

if you see someone low crawling in a bunker when they dont need to they might be wiping on the ground.

[theraidenproject]

i think refs should carry PGPs and shoot people who cheat

[pumpamatic]

I'd say it would be really easy and yet hard to catch someone who is hit off the break going to a snake, if they would keep running, they could easily then proceed to crawl the snake, and you would hardly ever know. I don't have a clue how you could catch this in something like a rec-ball game where there sometimes isn't sufficient numbers of refs.

[MajorDamage]

Well a tourney I played in in Febuary, a guy ran to the 50 off the break, two members of my team saw him jerk like he was hit or something, then(when he was RIGHT AT THE BUNKER, and didnt need to really slide anyways) slid on his stomach, from what we could tell it was to wipe off the hit(well duh lol).

ENDO!

[raehl]

The best thing you can do is put yourself in a position to see hits when they happen. On the start, you need to put refs lying on the ground a little past the first row of bunkers facing the start - if someone gets hit, you'll likely see the break. If oyu get to them and hte hit is gone, pull 'em anyway - and if it's gone after a pointless slide or excessive bunker rubbing, three-for-one them while you're at it.

After the start, get refs on the inside of the field underneath (and a little to the side) of lanes of fire. If someone gets hit and the paintball just practically flew over your head, you're going to see it break. And don't be afraid to pull players when you've seen it break and the hit has mysteriously "vanished" before you get there.


Really, if refs just did what they thought was right AND had the tournament organizers back them up on it, a lot of cheating would go away. That and if we did more video taping of events.

- Chris

[Hamster Huey]

There's also velocity adjustment cheating, which inflames me even more than wiping (which is a lot). When you wipe you're being a supreme ***, but when you crank up your velocity on the field, you're endangering others in addition to being a supreme ***. It's not as easy to spot as wiping, but it's just as important if not more so. A ref needs to have a direct line of sight on the cheater to see it; this usually means that you need a _bare minimum_ of two refs per game. And unfortunately it happens in rec ball as well as tourny ball. People can carry a small Allen wrench anywhere, and there's always the "missing set screw" trick.

[TheBigRaguPB4L]

I like the old loosen the barrel when you're crono'ing. This can drop the fps quite drastically. When you step onto the field, tighten the barrel. I knew a kid that used to do this whenever he played. It is quite annoying when people cheat. It's just a game.