The Best Ways To Cheat ?

[Bob McCrackhead]

I also ref, and here is a nifty little trick (sarcasm) that I have seen more than once:

The player is hit in the lid of their hopper. As soon as they see this, they run their hand from top to bottom of their lid, and open the lid in one clean sweep. Somehow the hit has "Magically" dissappeared. They then take out a pod, fill their hopper and keep on playing sa if nothing happned. Can be effective when done in one smooth motion.

[BTAutoMag]

Originally posted by Hamster Huey
There's also velocity adjustment cheating, which inflames me even more than wiping (which is a lot). When you wipe you're being a supreme ***, but when you crank up your velocity on the field, you're endangering others in addition to being a supreme ***. It's not as easy to spot as wiping, but it's just as important if not more so. A ref needs to have a direct line of sight on the cheater to see it; this usually means that you need a _bare minimum_ of two refs per game. And unfortunately it happens in rec ball as well as tourny ball. People can carry a small Allen wrench anywhere, and there's always the "missing set screw" trick.

what is the missing screw trick?

[Evil Emperor]

There are these very small scews on thumb adjusters and lock the adjester so it cant be moved without tools. They just take them out and say they lost them.

[BTAutoMag]

oh ok i c now. heres how ya fix that problem. have a small suply with you on the field... it shouldnt cost too much

[Gup44]

The best way to stop the "missing" set screw is to yank 'em and tell them to come back when they have a set screw. Make it known that you won't be allowed play without one. Then it will be "...oh look I found my set screw..."

[BTAutoMag]

yea probably but what if they really did loose it...

[Gup44]

Then hopefully the field has a pro-shop and you go buy one.

[BTAutoMag]

nobody anywhere near me does but oh well sucks to be the person pulled

[pip_999]

but

but tehya re like the smallest pieces
so they can be lost easily, and why woul du want to stop someone from playing, this is mainly only done in rec ball cause at tournies after all you got refs watching your every hair (most of the time)

i cant stand underreffed torunies

stupid cheaters with there rear velocity adjuster
ah well

life goes on hopefully

[StuDawggie]

Originally posted by theraidenproject
i think refs should carry PGPs and shoot people who cheat

Actually, as a ref I do carry a side arm. I warn the players at the orientation "NOT TO SHOOT THE REFS INTENTIOANLLY, BECAUSE SOME OF US SHOOT BACK, AND NOT TO CHEAT BECAUSE WE KNOW AND WILL SHOOT AT YOU FOR THAT AS WELL". Now if I'm in the way or close to a guy being fired at then that's one thing, but to fire at a guy in orange in the woods is just stupid. Sure enough though, there's always a punk or two who who wants to try and test me, and I have to pop them once or twice. They start crying to the other refs that I shot them and I wasn't in the game, but they are informed that they are told the rules and that some refs do shoot back when fired on, so being hit wih feild paint is an out for them. Sure it may hurt a tip or two, but it definately keeps people in check. SO go ahead and joke about it, but when you cheat on my watch or shoot at me, you will get busted, and I don't care.

[TylerDurden]

I like that idea. At the larger tournys such as Nppl, why don't they put cameras with multiple points of view on posts above the arena so if someone tries to wipe they could catch it on film.

[Hamster Huey]

and why woul du want to stop someone from playing, this is mainly only done in rec ball cause at tournies after all you got refs watching your every hair (most of the time)

You want to stop them from playing so that someone doesn't end up with shattered goggles, a broken finger, or a blind eye. Hot paintballs are just as damaging in rec ball as they are in tourny ball. And then what do you tell the lawyers? "Uhh yeah...I let him play because he was only missing his set screws." What do you tell the player who was just out to enjoy a day of paintball and ended up blind in one eye? "Uhh yeah...sorry about that. I guess I should've kept him off the field."

Sorry but about the rant, but this should be a complete non-issue. Rec ball, tourny ball - it doesn't matter. I agree with the aforementioned policy of "No set screws means no playing".

[phish]

heres a way of cheating. its not so much cheating as a nasty tactic. Youre shooting at a guy and you want to advance, you cant shoot him out like a good paintballer sow what do you do, well, ive seen people in this situation call paintchecks on the man they are firing on so they can move up. I hate it when people do that.

[BTAutoMag]

ive had somebody shoot me when they were beeing checked

[phish]

well, not really my point, but that sucks to be you