I finally figured out why people buy Autocockers

[hitmanng]

Please do not turn this into a gun bash as that is not it's intent. I simply spent a lot of time last week reading PB articles and realized why people buy autocockers.
It is the upgradability and customization. There are hundreds of rams, 3 and 4 ways, regs, volumizers, grips, triggers, bodies etc, etc out there. And many of them seriously effect the performance of the marker.
The mag on the other had is very un-upgradable. There are a few grips a few bodies and a valve change. the rest is all just eye candy.
I believe that both guns perform well when in proper condition and tuned well. But while the automag may be more reliable the Autococker has to be more fun to own even if you never shoot it.
Just an observation. I own a mag not a cocker, but this is interesting.
Angel owners on the other hand just seem to trade guns instead of upgrade a lot. Very interesting.
Hitmanng

[Croix71]

That's one of the reasons I didn't get a Cocker. Too many upgrades and that cost too much. My Mag was plain and simple and I could do all the maintenance myself.

[BlackVCG]

Part of the whole sport for kids is spending their allowance on paintball. Having a gun that lets them do that, like a Cocker, is just what they're looking for. They hardly play, but as long as they can spend money on it to upgrade it and make it all flashy, they can impress their friends and have a unique gun.

That's one of the scenarios and then you have people that just like to tinker with their guns. The Mag being a gun that holds .001" tolerances just can't be messed around with and still operate fine.

The Cocker just better fits the way paintball players are and what they want out of a gun. This is general statement, but it's obviously much more prevelant than people wanting a gun that is built to such high quality standards.

[DJSOLID]

I agree totally shartley. I've often thought of 'cockers in that way. I, on the other hand, want to take my mag out of it's case, place a couple of drops of oil in the valve, gas it up and rock and roll. At the end of the day maybe spend half an hour or so cleaning and relubing. That's my love for the mag - I'm lazy. I just wanna play some dang paintball. Hey, and great design work for Team Fatal Exception's website header. www.teamfatal.net

[shartley]

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[Gup44]

Originally from Shartley
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[Webmaster]

I beg to differ on one point - there are really only a handful of aftermarket parts that do ANYTHING to the performance of a stock cocker. There are some - but most of them are either eyecandy coupled with a cool name.

The other part of cockers is the whole "kit" attitude - you can build them up from scratch.

[pbR2k2]

I like mags more... not complicated, hard to brake,easy to maintain... I think alot of people like cocker because they have a cool little block that move around at the end, and has funny looking tubes on it... But again, its just preference...

[Snooky]

This was the reason i bought my spyder for my first gun... customization. However after i found it to look cool but shoot like a pos i traded it for a mag.

[OldSchoolMag]

Yeah, that's PART of it, but you're really putting a big generalization on the Cocker owners, that's somewhat equivelant to saying that people buy Mags because they can't keep up with Cockers - for some, true, but not for all.

I think that people also buy Cockers because they work nice, and the customizability allows them to get it working perfectly for them (or at least they feel that way, they might be wrong). That's a nice feeling; to have a gun feel like it's completely made for you and that it's your perfect partner. In fact, I plan to get a Cocker around next Christmas, when I'm done with my Mag.

OSM

[toymyster]

The customization is one of the reasons stores like selling the cocker!!! If you sell a kid a cocker, they will be in every other day buying parts and accessories for it!!! I know I am generalizing some, for the most part, this is the case, though!!!

[spliff]

Originally posted by Webmaster
I beg to differ on one point - there are really only a handful of aftermarket parts that do ANYTHING to the performance of a stock cocker. There are some - but most of them are either eyecandy coupled with a cool name.

I second that. Stock cockers are excelent right out of the box. Most upgrades do very little for performance. People upgrade their Stck pnuematics because they hate the look of brass, and they want the convienence of an externally adjustable LPR. People upgrade their rods from stainless to titanium, because you can. There are many other upgrades that do basically nothing. The majority out there offer either looks, convience, or a very small performance gain.

[Bartman]

For some,

Its the money pit
others its teh glamor from there freinds
but the real and only reason to actualy buy a cocker, is the clak-i-dy clack of the back block.

Sorry to ruene any of your thoughts but its all about the back block, cocker, sovereign, blazer dosn't matter, the moving parts mesmerrise the users

Bartman
Team I have no Idea

https://www.ihni.org

[Cliffio]

Originally posted by Bartman
For some,

Its the money pit
others its teh glamor from there freinds
but the real and only reason to actualy buy a cocker, is the clak-i-dy clack of the back block.

Sorry to ruene any of your thoughts but its all about the back block, cocker, sovereign, blazer dosn't matter, the moving parts mesmerrise the users

Bartman
Team I have no Idea
www.ihni.org

hes right

i loved shooting a old teammates Force 5, that thing was soo sweet
Cliff

[TotalSNAFU]

My Opinion...

I like the Mag because it subscribes to the old K.I.S.S. philosophy. Keep It Simple Stupid. That's why I chose it.

I played a game one day with a guy who had the most beautiful Cocker. Decked out to the gills with you name it. I was attracted by the looks of this gorgeous chrome wonder. I was playing with my lowly Spyder at the time. I was looking for a "high end" gun at the time and was torn between a Cocker and A Mag. I had been on the receiving end of both plenty of times and was trying to decide which one I wanted. I was leaning toward a Cocker at the time because they seemed quieter and more accurate not to mention all of the "toys" you can add to them. Well that day, I learned why I did not want a Cocker. That guy spent more time toying with the thing than playing. He had to sit out 3 games because the timing was off. He fixed 1 problem and something else sprang up. I realize now that this is not really typical for the average Cocker user but they are very high maintenance guns. I want a gun that performs well and I don't have to mess with all of the time. My Mag works fine, breaks a ball now and then, but all in all it works fine. Only "performance" upgrade that I did was put in an RT valve. The stock valve worked well for me, but after pulling an RT trigger, I had to have one. Love that reactive trigger. With a Mag you can play 1 shot one kill (my preference) and still have the firepower you need in tight spots. Slap a good Barrel on any stock Mag and you are good to go. A good barrel is the only thing required for a Mag to operate effectively. Efficiently, you gotta toy around a little. My 2 cents....