AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
At how many bps can a regular AIR valve no longer keep up?
Originally posted by a_malfunction The BPS meter on an Angel is flawed... It only measures the time between the two shots that are closest together. It then divides a second by that time and gives you a reading. It is a little inflated.
Funny... the definition of frequency is number of events divided by time. The meter isn't flawed, it's actually correct if that's how it measures BPS. BPS is an instantanious measurement, much like MPH, or Hz.
Realisticly, I put BPS measurements to an average over a duration of time. or an average over a number of shots.
When we timed me, we put 80 balls in the hopper and had me fire my heart out. I averaged 8.5bps for 80 balls. I was shooting less than 7bps for most of that string.
I wish I had more accurate timing equipment than just a stopwatch. For the first 10 balls or so i was well above 10bps.
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Hey guys, I appreciate all the votes and comments made. I feel, however, that this thread is turning into a "How fast can you fire" thread with people making too high of claims and others then flaming/refuting them. I appreciate everyone's willingness to vote, but staying more on my initial topic/question would be great. I was mainly looking for answers to decide whether a retro valve would be needed for me and my newbie trigger finger (6bps MAX). I've learned the AIR valve is quite capable of keeping up with 6bps, and so I've decided that a retro valve just isn't for me right now. I will play with my mag a lot before deciding a retro is truly what I need. Feel free to continue posting anything about the AIR valve's performance though.
im not exactly 15 bps put it was pretty dang fast. And who ever says u can only get like 7-8 bps must not now how to shoot a mag. i can easily get 13 or more bbs and all i have is a stock air valve. I'll have to time my self or record it for u non belivers.
Bob Long '02
68 4500psi nitro duck
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freak kit
I am looking for an e-mag.
quote this article by bill mills:
"In a police training facility in a warehouse north of Chicago I saw something amazing. It was early winter 1999 when I had the opportunity to test fire a prototype Centerflag Hyperframe. Dennis Ashley from Centerflag products had the frame installed on a powerfeed Automag that was connected to a prototype 2XS loader system (the loader is expected to be released late 2001 from a different company). We fired the 'mag fully automatic at 22, yes, that's 22 shots per second. That level of firepower is truly jaw-dropping"
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