First Hiccup in LVL10

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  • cphilip
    Former Moderator

    • Jun 2026
    • 16216

    #16
    Realy more carriers is a good thing. Even more fine tuning can be achieved and apears likely. To be expected in this phase I think. And some break in I expected as tolerances change so thats a given I thought. Good to know its being refined even more before I start testing it.

    Better fill up the scuba!

    That in itself might be a good point to bring out now. You guys who do not have a good acess to air SHOULD NOT betta test in my opinion. If what Tom is indicating is the case ((I certainly have no reason to doubt it) you could need a couple or three tanks of air to make sure you are set up right. Maybe more! So you may want to consider this when you think about testing.


    AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

    cphilip.com

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    • krafty
      Senior Discount
      • Jun 2001
      • 1124

      #17
      Originally posted by cphilip
      Better fill up the scuba!
      I always wanted an excuse to buy a SCUBA tank and a fill station!

      Now where'd I put that darn credit card...

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      • cphilip
        Former Moderator

        • Jun 2026
        • 16216

        #18
        It would be a good investment anyway! Thats the spirit Krafty!


        seriously folks consider your situation...Me? I am set to go!


        AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

        cphilip.com

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        • Mossman
          habitual line stepper
          • Oct 2001
          • 3751

          #19
          Same here phil :)

          Sweet, i get to test out my 2 new tanks coming in the mail AND tune level 10 all at the same time!
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          • bofh
            Waldorf, the Heckler
            • Jul 2001
            • 1248

            #20
            Hmm, will a 25 lbs CO2 tank do?
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            • FooTemps
              HURRRR
              • Sep 2001
              • 6702

              #21
              Originally posted by Bob Mundon
              you have failed
              And why did you just post this? He didn't fail, he just freaked out and made it looked like he failed... Maybe Tom should learn to keep his cool better... lol

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              • sniper1rfa
                (Not a Wang Force member.)
                • Aug 2001
                • 1107

                #22
                sounds like the same goes for those people without a chrony. i have one of those "shooting chrony" deals. works great.

                BTW, did you know the average spitball goes 80 fps, and th average little elastic band does 180 fps!? lol
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                • virus
                  AO's dirty little secret
                  • Oct 2000
                  • 1524

                  #23
                  Originally posted by cphilip

                  Better fill up the scuba!
                  or in my case drag the tank out to my car and go get the vip again for it and get it filled..... its been sitting in the same spot for about 15 months now..... still got about 1k in it too =)

                  but your right i should go fill it and this makes one heck of an excuse to boot =)
                  Virus, King of the Basement Trollz has spoken

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                  • ShooterJM
                    Shooter Wang - Ice Ninja
                    • Feb 2002
                    • 3651

                    #24
                    First, thanks to Tom for explaining this early.

                    Second, I had planned on filling up all my bottles, getting a case or two of paint, going to the local field, grabbing an extra chrony and going to town on the spare field.
                    It's HERE! Play at Shooter's Casino!!!!!! It'll be fun........

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                    • FrAuStY
                      a.k.a. Tom Green
                      • Apr 2002
                      • 1247

                      #25
                      HAHAHA I already got my scuba filled for this reason. I figured I'd be spending a couple hours and a couple thousand rounds getting it tweaked :) I can't wait.. like everyone said.. it's like a cocker..but once it starts working it should work forever.. and if not.. slap the stock parts in and rock on! AGD is the best.

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                      • hitech
                        Not a shedder of vortices
                        • Nov 2001
                        • 4775

                        #26
                        Originally posted by virus
                        I'd like to see a cocker that you can just throw stock, proven parts on and get it workin right away if it starts acting up.
                        That is something for everyone to remember. If you are having trouble and you want/need to play, just put the level 7 part back in and you are up and running again.


                        Hey Hitech your starting to sound like me! - AGD
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                        • paintbattler
                          Mags > Cockers
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 2754

                          #27
                          oh man..thats not good..oh well, at least its fixable.
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                          • manike
                            INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                            • Jan 2001
                            • 3820

                            #28
                            Hey Guys,

                            I am a little concerned that some of you have ordered the beta test level 10 kits aren't aware of what Beta testing means and involves.

                            Ideally things will be perfect and go right immediately.

                            But there may well be issues that are only found when in the hands of many different players.

                            We need to work through these, with time, patience and effort to get solutions. Not with upset or irritated posts and certainly not with abuse.

                            Being part of a beta test is something special but in return you need to play your part. You need to work with what you get. Not become frustrated if it's not perfect (that's why it was cheaper and a beta test).

                            It is GOOD that Tom found the first issue before the kits were even sent out. It will be good for us to find any other issues and get fixes before this goes on mass sale. THAT is the WHOLE point of being involved in this.

                            I think when it comes to it, constructive criticism and comments are the only ones that should be allowed in threads surrounding the beta testing of Level 10. Remember you CHOSE to Beta test. Tom made that very clear.

                            That doesn't mean, you can't point out any issues or faults, it just means you have to do it with a certain level of decorum. Respect the responsibility you have been given and have as part of being in this process (that goes for others reading the boards also and not just those with actual level 10 kits as we are all involved).

                            manike
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                            • cphilip
                              Former Moderator

                              • Jun 2026
                              • 16216

                              #29
                              Well put Simon!

                              And hence my warning of being prepared and properly equiped to do this testing as well. If you are not then you are doing none of us any good. In fact perhaps more harm than good. I fear many are not prepared to do this. And so they should wait until the rest of us with the time and patience to tinker with it are finished. I realy dread the first kid who gets it and gives up in like half an hour or so. THIS WILL HAPPEN. BUT YOU WERE WARNED!!!!!! SECOND WARNING!!! NOTHING HAS SHIPPED YET!!! YOU SHOULD CHANGE YOUR MIND IF YOU ARE NOT COMMITED TO MAKING THIS WORK!!!! TOM DOES NOT NEED BAD HELP, HE NEEDS GOOD HELP HERE! If you cannot stand the heat then stay outa the kitchen people. If you do not head these warnings an fail I got no sympathy for you. You were told.

                              Think the Caps will make anyone think?
                              Last edited by cphilip; 06-21-2002, 09:31 AM.


                              AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

                              cphilip.com

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                              • Army
                                Moderator of DOOOOOOOOMMM!

                                • Oct 2000
                                • 5785

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Bob Mundon
                                you have failed
                                You try to bash 'Mags on many forums, but you have yet to have a valid, or even a logical, complaint.

                                In case you are the recpient of public education and could not read all the big words, Tom stated that none of the discovered problems (not failures) would stop you from swapping a part in the kit and continue to play.

                                It's a glitch. Like all new things, testing will reveal unknown kinks that will be straightened out. This kink has already been straightened out, even before the real world testing has begun.

                                Now, go home and hug your Teddy Bear.

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