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  • manike
    INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

    • Jan 2001
    • 3820

    #31
    Re: hmm

    Originally posted by demonguy8
    i understand your point... (and yours was a nicely thought out post) but I cant believe that a human being is capable of makeing X>18... (Im one who must see it to believe it)
    wether you believe it or not is irrelevant in terms of the posts and points/equations you were making. Since it is unknown you can not limit it. It must stay a variable. You can not limit it to less than 18 and then say 'show me proof otherwise'. Especially when that is the whole crux of your argument You are trying to base a factual arguement on your opinion, which doesn't cut it I'm afraid.

    Originally posted by demonguy8
    X itself is limited by a humans ability to pull the trigger... which is as i stated less than 18 a second.
    A rate which I suppose Im debating to be impossible(like a great many things are) for a human to do in semi mode...
    Exactly, you stated it to be less than 18. But you do not have any proof or evidence of that. It is not a fact, it's an opinion and what you base your whole issue on. You need to base your arguement on proven facts not unproven opinions. A lot of it comes down to what you call valid semi auto? Is walking a trigger still semi auto? is the movement of the trigger what dictates semi auto? This is a big discussion we had back in deep blue (when it was fight club) and at the time I did have what I classed a semi auto trigger that would allow over 18 shots per second.

    Originally posted by demonguy8
    I guess you had a nice post but it didnt prove anything to me the same way as mine didnt to you
    You mean it didn't prove that your equation was making an invalid assumption? That your basis of arguement was an opinion on something you don't know for a fact? That it didn't show that the potential capability is in favour of the e-mag? OK No point my banging my head against a brick wall to do it again.

    Originally posted by demonguy8
    perhaps we should make a open challenge thread to see if infact anyone(here atleast) can do faster than 18 in semi??
    certainly once you define clearly and unequivically what semi is... (and I don't mean hybrid either, just semi) we tried doing that before in Deep Blue and it got into a very heavy discussion which didn't meet with a final agreement.

    manike
    Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

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    • manike
      INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

      • Jan 2001
      • 3820

      #32
      BTW, when walking a trigger (with two fingers) it is very possible to get a rate between two shots that would equate to over 18bps. In this case the e-mag would fire those shots at the rate of 18bps or over (upto it's limit) but the angel would not. (it might fire two shots but the rate would be 18bps.) It's not so easy to sustain that rate for 3 shots though

      It's only over two shots but that's all you need to calculate a rate... as seen by the Angel LCD's read out

      manike

      Hey I need to get out of here and go to AGDE...
      Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

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      • Shaft
        Big Mean Ugly Ogre
        • Sep 2001
        • 797

        #33
        Ack! I'm getting a headache... This Angel vs Mag stuff is making me want to go buy a Phantom..

        Hey I realized somthing... It really seems that the Automag vs Autococker debates have fallen to the wayside in favor of the Automag vs. Angel. EMags are cool.

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