Level 10 "carriers that worked" list thread

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  • 2000Sabre
    Team AO Nightmare
    • Aug 2001
    • 439

    #46
    Just installed Level 10 in my RT Pro. Started out with the #2 carrier, 2 shims and longest spring following Miscues video. I had a slight leak down the barrel. Dropped in the 1.5 carrier with 2 shims and longest spring. No problems. I have a hand held rado chron and had no problems adjusting the velocity between 250 - 290. We'll see how shes shoots when my son runs her at Shatnerball.

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    • jwren00
      Registered User
      • Aug 2002
      • 302

      #47
      1.0 carrier, 2 shims, middle spring.

      I absolutley dont chop any balls anymore!!!

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      • ts1spoc
        Evolution??????
        • May 2002
        • 32

        #48
        Update on what works.

        I used the 1 carrier, no shims and the shortest spring. I had the 1.5 carrier and it shot better, but it had a slight hiss. With 1 carrier I did have to turn up the velocity quite a bit to get it to function, but I have not chronographed it to see where I am at.


        For several weeks I was shooting my level 10 with all the old paintballs I hade with the above setup and everything was working fine. I played in a 3-man tournament on 8-3-02 and gassed up my gun and made a couple of dry fires, chrongraphed my gun and took a few practice shots on the target range.
        As soon as the ref blew the whistle I ran for the first bunker and popped around to snap a couple shots at an opponent. All I got was a slight hiss because the spring was too strong to drive the bolt forward. We played a team that was good and my team mates were eliminated. I was temped to grab a handful of paint and kamakazie slap it on the enemy as he ran by to hang the flag but I called myself out and went to the workbench and changed springs.
        I still run the 1.5 carrier but I went with the stock spring to make it function. Needless to say that first game set the mood for the rest of the tournament.

        If we are still evolving and have evolved from monkeys, why are there no half monkeys/half humans around?
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        • nak81783
          Registered User
          • Nov 2001
          • 782

          #49
          #1 carrier/longest spring/2 shims

          Doesn't chop one bounce paint so I'll probably leave it there. Still trying to get it to bounce off a one dollar bill like in the video though, so things may change.

          Nathan
          Last of the Salzburg Clan

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          • cphilip
            Former Moderator

            • Jun 2026
            • 16216

            #50
            Now on my fourth personal set up. And have assisted in five others. In all cases (but one) I am using 1.5 carrier, Two shims and middle spring. These are working fine after break in...In fact the last one I set up I just started with an oiled oring in a 1.5 rather than break in with a 2 and have to go down one carrier size later on. And that worked fine! Getting pretty darn good at these now!

            The one that didn't? Ordering a new HP Piston as this old marker refused to set up with any combo without venting out the back. Then we shall start over with it. I am confident that will do it.


            AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

            cphilip.com

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            • hitech
              Not a shedder of vortices
              • Nov 2001
              • 4775

              #51
              Originally posted by cphilip
              ...In all cases (but one) I am using 1.5 carrier, Two shims and middle spring.
              Interesting. I am also using the 1.5 carrier. The middle spring also worked, but I am using the longest spring because I can. However, I was unable to use 2 shims as it caused a leak.


              Hey Hitech your starting to sound like me! - AGD
              Hitech is the man.... :eek: - Blennidae
              The only Hitech Lubricant

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              • athomas
                Of course it works-its AGD
                • Jan 2002
                • 8039

                #52
                I started with a 2 carrier as well. Now I've had to switch to a 1.5 carrier after the o-ring got broke in.
                Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                • Dr.StockClass
                  Single Ball Bunkerer
                  • Mar 2002
                  • 142

                  #53
                  1.5, medium spring, 2 shims.

                  Like mentioned above, I can't imagine an oring being so anorexic to need anything more than a 3.

                  After some initial trouble just getting the carrier into the PT (carrier too wide to fit past the threads in the PT, had to *tap* it in with a mallet) 1.5 has been working beautifully. The longest spring prevented me from firing so I went down to the middle spring and with the velocity cranked almost all the way up it cycles and works perfect. It stopped and recocked itself about 5 times on one mishapin 2 year old zap ball without cracking the shell. Simply. Amazing.
                  Electro user: WHAT!?! I got eliminated by a %@$*ing pump?

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                  • Shirow
                    www.digitalgunfire.com
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 2023

                    #54
                    Size 1 with 2 shims and shortest spring. Valve vents with anything longer (sometimes vents even on shortest!)
                    Superbolt

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                    • cphilip
                      Former Moderator

                      • Jun 2026
                      • 16216

                      #55
                      last two kits, very new productions, I ended up with .5 carriers working in them and also indicating a new batch of very large orings is in there.


                      AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

                      cphilip.com

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                      • TequilaMockingbird
                        Creating Welts Since 1990
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 37

                        #56
                        For my E-Mag: Medium spring, #2 carrier, 2 shims, 850 preset tank. Had the 2.5 carrier work, but it was leaking down the barrel more often than not. Still feels a bit heavy on the bolt movement (used my finger, not brave enough for the tongue - besides, that powerfeed would be sure to entrap my tongue if there were any mechanical failure....) so I'm not quite through playing with it. Ran some old oval paint through it, stuttered now and then, but didn't chop a one!

                        "You actually expect me to play in a field of balloons?"

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                        • Shirow
                          www.digitalgunfire.com
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 2023

                          #57
                          Now that I'm using retro, I was getting bolt stick with the size 1 carrier. Went to 1.5 with 2 shims (thanks Timmy!) and now it seems to shoot good again.
                          Superbolt

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                          • darklord
                            missing my matrix
                            • May 2002
                            • 2105

                            #58
                            2.5 on my mini with stock valve, and 3 shims

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                            • Zenwood
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 69

                              #59
                              started with 1.5 carrier and went to 1.0 after about a case and a half.
                              shortest spring.
                              1 shim.

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                              • fallout11

                                #60
                                My config

                                Final configuration for my old automag classic:
                                1.5 carrier
                                2 shims
                                shortest (original) spring

                                Like others, I can't possibly forsee ever needing the 3.5 or 4.0 carrier, or for that matter even the 0.0 carrier. AGD might want to think about leaving them out of future Level 10 kits, and save themselves some machining and cost. Maybe substitute a couple more shims/spare orings in the kit instead, since folks seem to damage their shims fairly often.....

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