IAO AGD BillBoard Sighting!

[billmi]

[1stdeadeye]

Re: Re: A little too serious folks?

Originally posted by billmi




Well, I'm sure if the E-Mag were available at the same price as a Spyder you'd see more E-Mags out there, that probably has something to do with it too, I just don't think that's something that is in economic reality.

See you on the field,
-Bill Mills

Bill,
I understand your point. Perhaps I should have used Angels as better example. They are indeed in the same price range as the Emag. Yet on all of the local fields, I may see 2 Emags all day (One being my buddy RKEZ10), while we will see 20+ Angels. I know that your point about reaching dealers is valid, but don't you think they read the trade magazines too? Hell, most of them are published by them. So I am still convinved the money would have been better spent in publishing ads then in billboards. Plus Tom could have produced a whole series of these ads giving us so much more to chat about.

P.S. Bill, you're right. There are more then five people living out there, I hear it's like 10!

P.P.S. I thought my previous post was funny.

[shartley]

Thank you Bill, that is exactly what, and how, I said it. I was not speaking for ALL AO Parents, but pointing out that there were indeed parents on AO that did not find the Ad appropriate.

wimag

Again, I am sick and tired of people wanting to correct ME, bash ME, scold ME, tell ME what they think, and then NOT expect the same from me, but say it in reverse. If someone finds offense in MY posts they come out and say it. But I am not allowed the same? If someone thinks I am out of line, they come out and say it.... but I am not allowed the same? But then you try to parrot these things back to me?

As you can clearly see, they mean quite a bit different things. Please either correct this, or remove it from your Signature.

Thank you.

[billmi]

1stdeadeye,

10 people? Be realistic there's at least a dozen :-)

Looking at WDP though they don't do nearly the print advertising that Kingman and Tippmann do (or if they do it hasn't stood out to me, I've not done an actual ad count to compare). It's my impression (read as next best thing I have to an analysys of their marketing :-) that more of their marketing efforts go into presentation of themselves at events (large booths, hosting "Heaven" parties, etc.) and on sponsorships to make sure many of the top teams are shooting their products, appearing with their products in magazines and impressing the teams below them.

See you on the field,
-Bill Mills

[wimag]

Bill, Ahhhhhhh now i see it. Hey 12 hours of work and a twelver of coke and i see it differently. Oh well, wasnt like i was making a federal case out of it.
I will keep it simple next time and just respond to Mr. Kaye rather than go through the hassle

[hitech]

AO Parent

I am an AO parent. If I were going to this event the billboard WOULD be a problem. If the NPPL tournament in LA is normal, I probably wouldn't take my wife and children to such an event. If I did, I would normally explain how AGD (the company I stand behind) is different. THAT billboard would make that a very hard sell. I can hear my wife now, so THAT is why you want to come to these things! As i saw it, the NPPL in LA was NOT a family event.

The AGD billboard does NOT belong at, or in association with, a family event.

[Jezus]

Guys/Girls

Most of us here are adults and as adults you should be more mature about the issue. Its just a girl without her shirt on. So what, if she had a bra on would it make a bigger difference

I mean its skin, all skin is hte same just some is curved differently

AGD Isnt really using sex to sell there markers, its a build board to attract attention. I mean common 95% of all players in this sport are men lets face it.. Im not trying to start a flame war of men against the women but its the truth. not a lot of girls play and AGD realizes this. I have no problem with the build board what so ever. It looks great to me.

[shartley]

Re: Guys/Girls

Originally posted by Jezus
Most of us here are adults and as adults you should be more mature about the issue. Its just a girl without her shirt on. So what, if she had a bra on would it make a bigger difference

I mean its skin, all skin is hte same just some is curved differently

AGD Isnt really using sex to sell there markers, its a build board to attract attention. I mean common 95% of all players in this sport are men lets face it.. Im not trying to start a flame war of men against the women but its the truth. not a lot of girls play and AGD realizes this. I have no problem with the build board what so ever. It looks great to me.

[1stdeadeye]

Booming Growth

Originally posted by billmi
1stdeadeye,

10 people? Be realistic there's at least a dozen :-)

See you on the field,
-Bill Mills

WOW,
There are that many now? I better get out there and option some land for developement. Yee Haw, I'm gonna get rich off of this one!!!!

[beam]

WOW!

I can't believe I missed this one. I only read the first 2.5 pages of posts, and then decided that I had to chime in with my opinion.

2 Thumbs down...AGD took the "low road".

And as a side note about maturity...I think that restraint shows a LOT of maturity. How much maturity does it take to "give in" to peer pressure? That is actually a sign of immaturity. AGD displayed corporate immaturity by giving into the "sex sells" pressure.

[MagDog68]

Damnit Bill - his name is SHartlEy!

~Fred

[AGD]

You guys are also not remembering that the billboard was second runner up in the design contest. This controversy is good though I am constantly reading it.

AGD

[MagDog68]

Originally posted by AGD
You guys are also not remembering that the billboard was second runner up in the design contest. This controversy is good though I am constantly reading it.

AGD

Tom - I don't think many of us are denying the ad is cool. I love it, however it's placement in a public area where people don't have the choice to look at it or not was bad judgment.

In a paintball Magazine it would be great, but in a public place conservative would be better. There is no reason to portray a smutty image to people who don't have any interest in paintball or worse yet, dislike it all together.

How about we just put up a big sign that says "Donut Orgy Inside" with the AGD logo? I bet you will get more customers from that billboard!

~Fred

[beam]

Originally posted by MagDog68


Tom - I don't think many of us are denying the ad is cool.

COOL!?!?!

Dog gone it...this just ticks me off! Everyone keeps saying, "Sex sells", "You gotta realize, sex sells.", "Hey, don't you realize that sex sells?!?! AND IT'S COOL!"

It just ticks me off. NO ONE has asked, "SHOULD sex sell?" I have two daughters, 5 and 3. Am I gonna tell them when they are older..."Oh, it's ok sweety that Timmy doesn't like you, just take your shirt off. That will work because sweety, SEX SELLS." What the freak?!?!?! Now I know that a bunch of you are gonna be all over that analogy, but tough cookies...history has shown that WHAT ONE GENERATION DOES, THE NEXT WILL DO IN EXCESS!

The last thing I want my boys(7 and 10mos) to develop is a total lack of respect for women. In my opinion, women should be honored, not put up as pieces of meat used to sell...what...PAINTBALL EQUIPMENT?!?!?! AAAAAH. I can't take it anymore!

To stay on track with the topic, AGD's billboard (I just deleted a long rant about our sex crazed media), I think something that would have been REALLY cool, would have been if AGD made fun of how ads always use sex/sexuality to sell products. We could've used our brains to come up with something really witty, and intellectually sarcastic. Instead, we got a topless woman. hmmmmm

[hitech]

Originally posted by AGD
You guys are also not remembering that the billboard was second runner up in the design contest.

I'm missing what difference that makes. If I were going to this event that billboard would possibly keep me from bringing my wife and children. At a minimum it would eliminate the "But honey, AGD is DIFFERENT!" argument.