did we even need lvl10????

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  • CpSuPeRkId
    Registered User
    • May 2002
    • 390

    #1

    did we even need lvl10????

    well did we??? seriously i shot an emag yesterday with no lvl10(first one of shotten) and it had a warp feed. not one break no matter how fast i shot. dont get me wrong, the lvl10 is great and is always wanted as an xtra feature, but do u think maybe AGD made it just to counter all the mag rumors??? if ur feeding it, a mag wont break. i dunno, i just thought of this as i was shooting the emag.
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  • SlipknotX556
    Registered User
    • Nov 2001
    • 5054

    #2
    Well maybe some people did have chopping problems. AGD also wanted to prefect the mag, this will prefect it.

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    • wyn1370
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      • Feb 2001
      • 3821

      #3
      I needed it. I had it working but then it started leaking on me. Oh well time to tinker some more.
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      • CpSuPeRkId
        Registered User
        • May 2002
        • 390

        #4
        ya maybe. just seems like it benefits AGD more than us by making mags more popular to the retards that think mags chop, hence giving AGD more sales. if u feed a mag correctly and dont shortsroke, u wont have chopping problems. dont get me wrong i even ordered lvl10 for my classic mag for the heck of it but didnt honestly need it. lvl10 is amazing, just think that maybe it was made to stop the rumors, cuz all real mag users know that they dont chop paint any more than any other guns.
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        • Curly
          Registered User
          • Feb 2002
          • 1665

          #5
          Well then you probably were not firing very fast. When i had my emag it would chop if i started to rip on it. I had warp feed and i even tried it with a halo.
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          • FrAuStY
            a.k.a. Tom Green
            • Apr 2002
            • 1247

            #6
            Need LVL10?

            No I don't think AGD markers "need" LVL10...just like Porsche 911 Carrera's don't "need" 4 piston brembo brake calipers...they'll stop with 2 piston calipers..but it's nice to know they're there in case you need them. Just like with LVL10, you may not need the anti-chop action..but it's nice to know its there...I mean..now..I leave my squeegee on the sideline while I take an extra pod of paint

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            • hitech
              Not a shedder of vortices
              • Nov 2001
              • 4775

              #7
              Originally posted by CpSuPeRkId
              ...dont shortstroke...
              And there in lies the problem. I'v been playing for 15 years and STILL can't stop shortstroking. Level 10 is the best "upgrade" I have ever done.


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              • fearc7
                • Dec 2001
                • 239

                #8
                and for the people that dont like warp feed, you don't chop with that ol' revy either!

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                • irbodden
                  Registered User
                  • Dec 2000
                  • 3413

                  #9
                  I personally think its silly.

                  A year ago people from here were having Mag wars saying things like, "I have never chopper a ball in my Automag for two years!". And now everyone ran out to buy one.

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                  • personman

                    #10
                    irb: thats because they just want to make sure it stays that way and or want a new lighter bolt.

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                    • aaron_mag
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 1375

                      #11
                      Originally posted by CpSuPeRkId
                      ya maybe. just seems like it benefits AGD more than us by making mags more popular to the retards that think mags chop, hence giving AGD more sales.
                      It is quite simple. What is good for AGD is good for we humble users. They make lots of money and we have a better working marker. They invest in more research and development and suddenly another upgrade comes out of left field. I mean come on! People were projected that AGD was at worst going to be out of business or focus on things like the warp feed rather than the Automag product line. Obviously there was no truth to these rumors (since they came up with something that wowed everyone) but that was still the mood of the industry. This is a good thing all the way around.....
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                      • TransMan
                        Man Beast!!!
                        • Apr 2002
                        • 3152

                        #12
                        Umm yeah we need it i never chopped a ball in my mag but now my mag has no recoil and i can shoot the most fragile paint with out worrying about breaks. Its also fun to put stuff infront of it and watch it stop.

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                        • mike e
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 147

                          #13
                          sayin we dont need level 10 is like saying do we really need to go past nelspots and welding goggles. hell we dont even need to play the sport all we really need to do is eat sleep poop and pay taxes, the rest is just gravy. im glad for the level 10 and any other mod that will help to further the sport
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                          • RRfireblade

                            • Jun 2002
                            • 5103

                            #14
                            I'm with Superkid,I don't need it and I don't think I want it.What I want is a simple super reliable diehard Mag and that is what I have.Every time I read a post about leaking this, carrier that,long spring,short spring,venting,velocity this and that,I'm like "why should I add complexity and the fact that a finger or a simple shell fragment for that matter can leave me DOA out in the field.All of a sudden there could be a dozen reasons for my Mag to not function correctly everything from input pressure to o-rings.I give AGD mad props for the effort and if those of you who chop badly are reaping the rewards than more power to you.As for me thanks but no thanks and I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way.For the record I have chopped 2 balls since I've had my mag and even then that was fanning with a VL200.With the Ric I currently have I've yet to spit paint.However if I did chop one I would rather shoot a screw ball than not shoot cause a shell frag or something has more muscle than my bolt.For that matter I'd rather chop and spit paint on someone trying to bunker me instead of "pinch...OWW MY NECK!"(LOL)

                            Anyway that my rant.

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                            • Vegeta
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                              • Oct 2001
                              • 1050

                              #15
                              I honestly didn't need it... I don't shoot god awfully fast like most people seem to here. No more than 4-5 bps at most. I hate to shoot like 5-600 or more rounds a game just because I do not have gobs of money to spend.

                              And I never shortstorke. I never have actually shortstroked with my gun on accident since I got it. Once I wanted to like figure out why/hw people do it but I could only do it when firing fast and not paying attention to how I was pulling the trigger... and I never fire that fast in a game anyways.
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