Proto Mainbodies NEED YOUR HELP!!

[Kevmaster]

what i dont see is how this is so much better than the current mag bodies. sure you can make pretty colors, but i dont think thats worth the trouble of redoing the body for such a simple reason, now if you can get the "brick" going and have built in rail, milling, mod feeds, etc then you have something. but as is, i give it a thumbs down in favor of the old Burger King motto "If youre gunna go, go all out..."

[FooTemps]

booo! hiss!! No cocker threads! twist-lock is bettter! that is... unless you make it modular...

[Aliens-8-MyDad]

i dont mind going cocker threaded as long as it takes significant weight off... ill just buy a cocker freak back...

[Prezents]

during game

Another thing that came to mind, It is quicker to have the mag barrel if you have to remove it during a game. The cocker would take longer to unscrew.

[AGD]

Ok here is the deal, our machine shop has these super lathes that can remove material very fast when its round. These lathes also have milling cutters on them so they can mill too. The problem is that the milling cutters only rotate at 5000 rpm compared to high performance mills that rotate the cutters at 15-20,000 rpm. Consequently it takes three times longer to mill something on these lathes. It's great for small stuff and drilled holes but to change a round bar into a square is just not cost effective.

On the other side of the coin, to go with a high speed mill you have to have several setups to get to all sides of the body. In reverse of a lathe, the mill has a hard time doing the inside round stuff. So you see if you want to be cost effective it must come off the machine ready to go in one step.

We don't want to do power feeds, again because the cost is trememdous. Everyone else with high end markers only offers vertical feeds, why can't we? We can rotate the feed over to 45 deg. or a little more but you still have to use a stub and 90 deg. adaptor for warps. We can't make them for stock mag barrels because there is no way to attach the feed tube.

AGD

[Coaster]

why would you ever have to remove your barrel

[Sinnet]

I love the plain one, no ribbing or anything... I think it would look best with a non-ribbed feed neck (I realize it's a bob long one on the proto, but still).

I'd buy one if it came out and wasn't wicked expensive. Vert feed is a huge plus.

boo and hiss at the millable brick people... go get cockers


Also, i'm going to have to agree with the masses on this... twist lock barrels are the best! I'd hate to see all the mag users going to cocker threads, and that would be a big drawback to me.

[cphilip]

I like em all knowing the limitations...I can see lots of promise to styling. Some simple "gill" work...maybe some diamond checkering....

Do not take to the Style of that feed tube you had to use. But a simple bell will fix that.

Lets get em done!!!! Oh and one comment to help us picture it is to lose them plastic grips and show us some molded ones on it.

[magman007]

OK, i love twist lock, i will say that right now, but do others? no. you forget, that the majority of the paintbalers dont know about AO. we are 7000 out of 7,000,000 players. Vert feed is what it needs, pretty colors is what it needs. Milling of some sort is what it needs. Lighter is what it needs.

This is the step in the right direction people! tom is doing everything he can to do what people want, then when he does it, people say, oh i like it the other way better. What the heck is that? people clamor for one thing, then when they get it,m they dont want it.

Tom has done the lighter valve, the heaviest thing in the mag, then people say, oh its going to strip out, can i keep my ss valve?

Tom now tackles the other heavy part on the mag, trying not to stary too far from the tube for 2 reasons. One everyone says, oh i love the muddy tube on the grip frame, its realy what i like. He is alos sticking to it because it is cost effective. WHat would be better than a better, pretier cheeper mag? i dont really know to tell you the truth. Look at stock cockers, and how well they sell now that they are colored. anf oh...whats that? VERT FEED!! not to mention cocker threaded!

Guyds, tom is supplying what the market wants, and alot of the things you have wanted too. NOW WHAT DO YOU WANT?

[Ov3rmind]

IMO, these look a ton nicer than the old aluminum proto bodies. The vertical feed and Cocker threads are also very nice! When/if they do come out, it'll put a lvl 10 Classic Mag under heavy consideration for me. Good job Tom, these are looking great (BTW, I think the plain one without ribbing looks the best. I still love the basic tube design).

[Miscue]

How about... making the alum body a regular tube... and then machine up pieces to slide over body (kinda like how site rails slide) to give it whatever shape you want? You can make it flush with the body rail to make it look nice.

Heck, you could use plastic or whatever... for dress-up components...

[Halliday]

Mine

I like the looks of something like this better, using a P&P Dye Angel feed tube.

[CRASHKING]

IMHO. i think the old ones look better so far... now someone might post something that looks great but so far i like the normal body.

[FooTemps]

I think AGD is caving in too much to the popular market... I think you should stick with the twist lock threads at least...

ah yes... here's a good idea for a body... sorry for using this hexis but it came on the spur of the moment

[DaFlip]

All you people saying "twist lock is easier to clean" ummm....lvl 10, breaks are not that frequent anymore. Twist lock is a good concept, but not that practical. Why? The nubbins just dont hold up like a ball detent. You have to replace them once and a while. This is a no go, unless its a brick. People want millability, and with a thin tube that cant happen. I can go with no module, thats fine. You people gotta see, this isnt profitable with the tube. Its an old, trusty tho, but now people are into pretty shiny colors and custom carving...mmmm...DYEmag...oh wait off track, anyways another tube is no good. And if people want a colored tube, powdercoated stainless is your daddy.

Unless....the body is incredibly cheap. I mean $50-MAYBE $100. Then I might go...hmmmmmm.....

DaFlip