Proto Mainbodies NEED YOUR HELP!!

[skipdogg]

Dont like

Should be twist lock barrel.
I hate vertical feed.

[Thordic]

Re: Dont like

Originally posted by skipdogg
Should be twist lock barrel.
I hate vertical feed.

*sigh*

[Panzerr]

it's a start

Of all the bodies that have been posted so far, I like the plain one without the rings milled in it. The rings look tacky if you ask me. It looks like it's "trying to look cooler than it actually is". I like the idea of converting to cocker threads and a vertical feed, but use a better looking vertical feed, like the dye one someone posted earlier.

[luke]

Tom,
For those that want a "Warp Only" body, why not simply weld on the feed tube?

[ShooterJM]

Originally posted by Thordic
As for the barrels, the future of paintball is in cocker threads. Evolve, or become the next fossil Tom digs up in Montana. Everyone complains that nothing in Paintball is standardized, but then when things start to get standardized, they complain that the rest of the world isn't conforming to what THEY like.

Tom, the bottom line is I think this new body is an AMAZING development. If it doesn't go into mass production, I'll give my pinky for one of the prototypes.

After reading the spec's, limitations, reasons, etc. I retract my earlier statements. Cocker threads are good to go (freak system here I come). I think this is a great idea overall. Think about it. With this and the level 10 the two biggest knocks on the mag are gone (weight, breaks). I love the threaded vert feed as it already has aftermarket options on the market. Looks good Tom, I'll take a shark gilled, red to black fade anno!

[ah137]

Whine whine whine, Cocker threads and low rise vertical feed IS the way to go. Tom you are on the right track here. Has anyone ever noticed how hard it is to get micro mag 2000 bodies. Everyone wants them and they hold there resale.

Do the math

For everone that wants a twist-lock set up and power feed, BUY A FREAKIN RT PRO .

Its our turn to have vertical feed and cocker threads!!

I have been forced to buy PTP stuff, and if AGD starts making them, the new bodies will be a fair price and avaliable.

Thanks for your time,

Hills

[omni]

I wish mag bodies looked a bit like this.
It would have the round underbody so it would fit reg rails, but instead of being a tube, it would be more square up top and have the rough edges smoothed out.

and a bit more meat on the sides of the body to work with.

I don't think this would work on the circle mill thing (forget the spelling/name)

Excuse the bad photoshopping

[Patron God of Pirates]

The original RT Mainbody was all the sex. How about different types of extended sleeves like that of the RT and Minimag.

It seems as though it would be easy to cut and you could offer a good variety (RT, Mini, long parallel slots, angular slots [i.e. the RT forgrip mount]) at what seems like it would be a low cost.

I would by an aluminum RT style sleeve if you made them.



PS- The whole extended sleeve thing screams Mag, that way you can go aluminum without "selling out".

[shartley]

Originally posted by Patron God of Pirates
The original RT Mainbody was all the sex. How about different types of extended sleeves like that of the RT and Minimag.

It seems as though it would be easy to cut and you could offer a good variety (RT, Mini, long parallel slots, angular slots [i.e. the RT forgrip mount]) at what seems like it would be a low cost.

I would by an aluminum RT style sleeve if you made them.



PS- The whole extended sleeve thing screams Mag, that way you can go aluminum without "selling out".

I agree.

[Slapp]

If you don't like vertical feed, want twist lock barrels and prefer stainless bodies then keep your powerfeed mag and be happy as a clam. Let's not discourage cost effective product innovation here.

The point of this body appears to be 1) make it lighter than the current SS bodies 2) allow it to be easily annodized for cost effective color options 3) make it compatible with existing AGD markers and 4) make it simple and inexpensive to produce so it can be brought to market quickly and at a good price point and presumably profit margin for AGD.

Severe, you had a great suggestion with the bolt on feed however I'm curious how much this would result in a higher cost and a longer time to produce.

[rudy]

Well there was too much to read to see if I am repeating soemthing. but here is what I see. The extreme bodies are the block cut bodies if people want one they can buy an extreme body. So if it saves money for the classic go with the tube. otherwise buy an extreme body. I HATE how it looks so far. But it does could look good. I think you should cut a slant in the front of the body like the emag/rt/rtpros have. that would do alot of the looks also rather then ribs just go with one recessed area about 1/2 to 1 inch and that would look good enough. also when you bring this out i suggest ditchign the classic laser engraving on the valve it is not very attractive. in fact I would suggest laser engraving beign much smaller all togethter

[Vanced]

Tom,

First I want to say I know exactly where you comming from, see I got one of those nifty Mechanical Engineering Degrees.

Second, I want to say having that degree, makes me appciate the simple brillance of your work thru the years, and that is comming from a Mag Fan since nearly the begining who after being educated has had the ability to look at the gun in a differnt way other than "Mag's Kick ***" and truely appciate it for what it is. For it was things like the AutoMag that got me interested in Engineering to begin with, and for that I will be eternally greatfull.

Third, I work as a CAD designer, and just curious if maybe it would be possible to see some of the Dim's on that cut away? I would consider creating a 3D copy of it in CAD, and show that with some Simple engraving, laser or otherwise, that you could REALLY add some pop, and some spice to those bodies, with smiple things like flames, swirls, text, scales, or various other patterns. (I know this adds another step to the manufactuing process and added cost, machine & Man time, but would be mainly aftermarket sales but on the same new stock body, sound familar in the paintball world) Or on a higher note custom patterns or logo's are even possible. I am sure we all have seen some of the fancy engraving work that is done theese days on things like plates and trophies, heck go down to the Mall and the local "Things Remebered" And after the engraving is done, Add your Anno and WoW. But of course not sure if the wall thickness could support 'X' amount of engraving, but maybe an extra tenth of OD, if it wouldn't cause issues in the rail would be sufficent on my guess for the pressures.

Fourth, I belive strongly that Vert Feed, and threaded Barrels are the way to go, I like the added varity of picking my screw In Vert Feed, And I like the Slotted Barrels as much as the next Mag guy, but it's adapt or die.

Finally, please some day in the FUTURE please encorprate the Level 10 in the stock valves and basic markers.(IMHO - LX - the best up-grade ever for the mag Bar None, better than "E" or "RT" by far - it was so simply brillant I can't belive you or anyone else didn't come up with it long ago ) Please don't tarnish my ideals of the Mag being the Best Marker on the Market Air'd up out of the Box, and that would again put it again heads and shoulders above any of the compition in the $300+ price range of basic tourny grade markers.

Thanks for the continous drive to give us the best....

Vanced

BTW: For all those screaming BLOCK - wait on your extream like everyone else... It IS comming....

[joeyjoe367]

Originally posted by shartley

I agree.

I'll second that. The Front "sleeve" sort of things are kind of like a Signature Automag cosmetic feature.

...Yeah I guess spyders DID try that on their TL's, etc... but it looks waaaay better on a mag

[Shadow221]

I just had a great idea. On some duckbills there's a hole for a fitting on both the left and right sides. Whichever hole isn't being used has a plug screwed into it. How about you do something like that with the feed tube. have a hole cut on the top and both sides. have it come with 2 plugs and one feed tube. this way you can have the plugs in the sides and the feed at the top for vert feed. Then if you want to use a warp just unscrew the feed tube and one of the 2 plugs and switch them around. Then it's kinda like a modular body without having to buy extra modules.

[j.t.]

I defenately agree with Thordic on this one.

I think this new body is a GREAT idea, and a step in the right direction.

And for all of you who want to stick with twist lock barrels because you already have a barrel collection; the reason for this new body design is to attract potential customers, if im not mistaken. Custumors that most likely dont want to go through the misery of trying to even FIND the twist lock barrel they want, let alone pay the extra 10 bucks for one.


Not to mention, it allows for a normal style ball detent, which is much more reliable in my opinion.

And for the milling and such of the new body, i think it has some potential. Something really needs to be done about the body rail though. Something that compliments the new ribbed milling might help.

The aluminum body paired with an all aluminum valve would probably make for the lightest, high performing marker available, and for a decent cost.

Slap level 10, an intelliframe, and an RT valve on it and you have a VERY nice marker in nearly all aspects (the new colors and milling will help alot).