Intimidator Cycle Speed (VIDEO)

[Top Secret]

http://www.wickedairsportz.com/products/cycle1.mpg

Just saw this on WAS's page. Supposed to be 32cps. I don't have a sound analyzer so i'll let you guys take a crack at it.

[Top Secret]

Ok come on there have been 43 views and no replies...

[lunchbox]

i once saw someone do something with the model 98 that made it shoot air that fast the thing is what happens when a ball is sent in there. cycle, sure fine you can fill the chamber and make a pop real fast but, just cause you gun goes pop dont mean anything other than yeah the valve can open real fast. mag vids all use balls in them cause they show they can do it where it needs to be done. lets see that vid again this time try firing that fast with some balls.

[WhyIsItUpsideDown?]

Wow, Im suprised. Well not really The emag with emagnum sounds the same way give or take bps.

[WhyIsItUpsideDown?]

Oh also a Spyder without a sear, oh wait, that is a timmy!

[Butterfingers]

I belive it is accurate. The peak is about 32 BPS the average is about 30 in the vid. You can see that the gun is at the limit because it can only produce 32 bps sporaticaly. If you extropolate elsewhere it is below that number.

I am also surprised that the tank actually kept up. Every other tank that we tried resulted in a 300-400 psi drop in output from the tank at 30 bps. This might mean the intimidator is suffering some shootdown because the "air out of the tank " isn't consistent with the e-mag's "air out of the tank" The e-mag is likely flowing more air.

If you compare to the e-mag vid it is exactly 30 bps wherever you decide to extropolate. Not only that but each of the peaks are almost perfectly consistent. Im am not sure where the limit is but I can tell you the gun handles 30 bps with no problems, like it was designed to run that fast. The gun still has the ability to go even faster.

We only chose 30 BPS because it was a nice round number. I havent even hit the upper limits yet with the e-mag.

[rudy]

About the tank, well on a low pressure gun you could probably jack the input to the reg up to 800 and It probbably would have a good recharge, I cant say it would be very conssitent with that high of a difference, 600 psi or more. also I think that because the mag is not a very efficient gun it probably is a fairly hard gun to feed air to. I have seen several videos with guns shooting a claimed and somtimes proved 20 bps and they arent having big problem with drop off, so I am starting to wonder just how fast other regs are maybe they are much faster then I thought.

[Hemlock86]

thats special.........lets see him do that with paint!

Who cares if it can cycle that fast. Noone is the world can pull faster then MAYBE 17 bps, and thats pushing it...more like 13-14. Its impressive, but means nothing.

[rx2]

I agree that it is a bit of a novelty, but proving such cycling rates isn't completely without merit (as long as the cycle is a full, completely charged cylce). It is sort of like headroom with and amp: most people will never go beyond certain levels, and in some cases no one ever could, but the added headroom ensures that it will always function with clarity. If a marker can cycle perfectly fine at 30 cps, with no drop-off or malfunction, then chances are it will have no problems cycling at 13 cps.

Also, most people don't even consider that they will never achieve that ROF. Show them something flashy, like 30 cps, and they will be that more likely to purchase the product.
They can then tell everyone "my marker can fire at 30 cps, can yours?" Then they will probably get eliminated because they are the sort that doesn't understand the sport, and is too easily caught by gimmicks.

Of course, I think that it also probably has much to do with ego on behalf of those with interests in the marker than anything else.

[magman007]

ok, mags are not extremely inconsistent. Theye quite consistent if taken care of properly. Retros are even more consistent at high rates of fire. I agree, how much drop off os that timmy suffering? that is what i would like to know...



Id also like to point out that you cannot clearly see the watches. We all know Was's reputation, so it makes me wonder.


Also, he has very ugly hands

[Load SM5]

Sounds cool, totally impractical.

I also like how he feeds it with a warp instead of a turborev.

Turborev- THE SMARTEST GOSHDARNED LOADER IN THE WHOLE WORLD!!!!!!

[Blennidae]

I am not for or against WAS, let me first say that.

I just wanted to point out that he has provided a video of a timmy cycling at a high rate. Some people have replied with comments about drop off and malfunctions.

I haven't bothered to go back and check, but I don't remember there being as much negativity when butters did basically the same thing with the emagnum.

We shouldn't praise one and bad mouth the other. The videos are basically the same thing, a modified marker cycling very fast.

The real proof is with a hopper full of paint, and even that doesn't much count in the "real world" of rec/tourney ball as those modes aren't allowed.

[rudy]

magman007 i dont know if you were talking to me but I never said mags were inconsistent I said that I wouldnt be surprised if the reg on the timmy was incosistent cause they may have had to put a big difference in input pressure vs output pressure through it to get it to keep up. or they just didnt bother and they are expirencing drop off till the flow can keep up. or maybe the reg on the timmy can fully keep up who knows.

[davidb]

I have to agree with Blennidae here, you should give the devil his due.

However...

In my opinion all he has done here is shown the absolute max that the Intimidator can do (as evidenced by its obvious struggle to maintain the peak ROF), giving Butters and Don a solid number that they can beat with the E-Magnum. If you'll remember, as Butters pointed out, in his video the E-Magnum was firing 30 CPS no matter what point you selected to examine, and it didn't seem to be struggling to maintain that ROF.

I have to wonder, though, just how special these conditions are. I mean, did he start out with a nearly empty tank, or was he just really cranking the air into the thing? I mean, that was around 400 shots, probably less, and he ran out of air at the end. Could simply be because he started out with a low tank, but if not, I think it's safe to say he was expending at least about twice the usual amount of air per shot.
Of course, if he was low in the first place, then all of this is a moot point.

Butters, are you and Don going to wait 'til he runs his mouth off about having the new fastest gun, or just go ahead and take him to school?

[manike]

The funny thing is that WAS has just given us more evidence that he makes claims before he has proof.

He claimed to have had a gun cycle at 35cps, and that it could cycle at 41.6cps... and yet he makes a video of it cycling at 32cps... Why make a video that is once again short of what he was claiming? why stop so close to what would have maybe made his claims?

It's an impressive video but I'd like to be certain that the bolt is opening fully.

I once got a bushmaster to cycle very rapidly, but under investigation although it was pulling the bolt open far enough to close and then knock open the valve again (thus sounding like it was firing shots and cycling properly), there wasn't enough time for the bolt to cycle completely back opening the breech and thus noway it was a complete cycle.

Just because the bolt is clearing the eye in the middle of the breech did not mean it was continueing back far enough to open and load a ball.

In fact just operating the bolt until it just cleared the eye would be a great way to make it look like it was cycling faster than it could.

Nice video, proves his lack of evidence before making claims for me, and I still don't believe him even if he does occasionally tell the truth. He is all smoke and mirrors. Maybe he has cried wolf once to often.

manike