No Warped Sportz or Angel heaven at World Cup

[JEDI]

It seems due to certain PSP rules,(and what they consider inappropriate) these two companies which usually have great booths and other "Non-paintball" related stuff wont be there. There might be some representation, but not the usual spectacle they provide. Ed poorman who owns Warped Sportz is also part of PSP, so this could prove to be interesting. I think its a shame. Here's the link, read for your self

http://mortonwebdesign.com/DarkVansPR.htm

[oneshot]

I was looking forward to heaven

[ogre55]

Let the idiocy begin.

Isn't this how many earlier paintball "organizations" went from being the vangaurd of the sport to being a distant memory.

I have no idea what happened at Campaign Cup and frankly I don't care. If no one was arrested and no one complained (and I have not heard of either) than where is the problem.

Businesses know what they can do and can't do in public.

But what do I know. I'm just one guy, and PSP is a huge organization. They should know what is best, for EVERYONE.

Ok. Let's see what happens next year, when other vendors want to to engage in such unheard of practices as using pretty women to sell product, and are told by PSP that they can't. At this point most vendors probably have commitments to appear at World Cup, and simply can't afford not to. But what happens at the next PSP event when no vendors show up?

Ogre

[Thordic]

I for one am interested in what happened at the Campaign Cup. Simon? Any other Europeans?

Anyway, I can understand both sides of the arguement.

For one, paintballers like to party. The demographic is there for some amazing partying, and allows for some pretty... interesting things (like midgets and cage dancers!!!! woo hoo! )

On the other hand, things can easily get out of control. Anyone who was at IAO on that saturday knows exactly what I mean. I had to babysit for two paintballers who were not quite in full possession of their wits, only one of which being of the legal age to lose his mind

Does it bother me if a 16 year old gets drunk? Personally, no, not really. Kids are going to drink. Hopefully they don't go overboard, and they better stay the hell away from cars. BUT, I mind when it happens in public, especially at a paintball event.

I think that had paintballers been better at policing their own (and I myself am guilty of failing to do so), we wouldn't have rules such as this imposed on us. But due to the fact we are more or less out-of-control, the sponsors needed to impose rules.

Would I like to see paintballers given a second chance? Sure. I don't see a problem with alcohol being served at paintball events (to spectators, not to players) so long as its to people of age to drink. I don't have a problem with lewd behavior, as long as it stays in controlled areas and is at least close to legal

But I think if we got a second chance, we'd just blow it again. As a whole, "professional" paintball isn't very professional

[JEDI]

Thordic, on a whole I agree. I dont think pro paintball needs to come off as straight edged or decent from event to event. There's the whole Image thing, but a little Lewdness should be acceptable. Not just for the sake of being so, but because the community accepts it. Whats the big deal? I dont think anything I've seen yet at major events has been over board any way.

[Thordic]

At IAO two years ago, there was a wet-tshirt contest that turned into a mass striptease. Not sure what company that was...

This year at IAO the police were called because of companies giving alcohol to minors well past the point of intoxication.

While I really don't have a problem with these in general, it does look REALLY bad to any families wandering around.

I don't see the problem with Angel Heaven as its a VIP area thats roped off and pretty much only accessable to paintballers.

[hitech]

Originally posted by Thordic
As a whole, "professional" paintball isn't very professional

That has been my observation also. It appears to have actually gone down hill since the early '90s. I would have expected it to be better, not worse.

BTW, What is "Angel Heaven"?

[straightshot]

Well Jedi, I guess now you won't be able to replace your E-mag with that Dark Angel you wanted.

[synreal]

Originally posted by hitech
BTW, What is "Angel Heaven"?

WDP's Angel owners only lounge/beer tent

[JEDI]

That's just wrong. I guess I'll just have to get an Extreme... no wait, that's not possible either

[Thordic]

Angel Heaven is a fenced-off area with free beer, music, women, couches, etc. If you have an angel, or good connections , you get a medallion that grants you access.

[cphilip]

I have to respect PSP's decision to get ahold of this issue and regulate it. It does sound like to me that up until now vendors could plan as they wish without the knowledge of the event organizers. Sounds reasonable to me to want to control that.

Unfortunately the comment from WS was "what just show up and sell our products?" (close to that0 and I am thinking well...ummm...WHY NOT? If thats all you can do then why act like spoiled children about it. And who says its anywhere in the rules you gotta sell em? Heck you feel so generous that you want to give back then show up and GIVE BACK. No one stopping you from that.

And then later he misconstrues the comment as if they were saying they didn't believe they were planning a concert. I didn't read it that way. I read it as they didn't tell PSP anything about what they had planned. And thus the reason for the rules!!! Its not your house you cannot plan a party in it without asking the owner! That was PSP's point. And a good one!

[shartley]

[hitech]

Originally posted by cphilip
Its not your house you cannot plan a party in it without asking the owner!

That sums it up nicely.

[synreal]

Originally posted by shartley
You all ready for this?

Thordic, I agree with most everything you said.

//THUD//

[voices in background] syn....syn?...you okay, you cracked your head pretty hard there. what did you faint, nancy? [/voices in background]