chris lasoya

[Jonno06]

i have never intentionally cheated before such as wiping an obvious hit before.I have played on with a hit on my pack or what not because I didn't know that was there.

Cheaters suck in my opinion

I would love to play Chris in a game...i don't think he could wipe 30 welts off his chest....

[TheBigRaguPB4L]

Cheating's ok cause they do it? No. My team, although still fairly new, have played a few wiping teams and have never done anything like that. I saw him do it, why can't I? Unacceptable. The more anyone does it, the more everyeone else does it. It has to stop somewhere. I find it quite pathetic that grown men can't play a fair game.

[ogre55]

Is Salm playing in the MST? Why?

Ogre

[dre1919]

I looked at that www.pod*****.com site and that is an example of what is wrong with the pro sport, and to a lesser degree paintball in general. Some of these pro teams and players are simply corrupting a great sport by making it the cool thing to cheat and try to get away with it. Here's an exerpt I thought was particularily interesting:

"Save your Stickers! The man wants your stickers!

In the latest release of the new rules from NPPL we saw the normal changes that are meant to improve the game. Then we see that the NPPL has decided to control our free will and ability to express ourselves. Sure there is a good reason for this rule but they have gone to far in trying to solve the problem.
The issue is that some players (started by The Ironmen and followed by Avalanche) are pilling on massive amounts of paint colored stickers on the front of their hopper.
Extreme Rage and Diablo stickers are perfect for hiding hits.
These players started a trend of guys stacking stickers and hoping it will hide hits. Well, I tried this (looking for any edge to win) and it didn't hide ****. The ref still saw it and I still got pulled. I even planned to take a hit off the stickers but they saw that. I have talked with a few other players that stack stickers and they didn't get away with anything either. It was a good idea but if a ref is watching, no sticker will help. If you get hit and no one sees it, your gonna wipe it stickers or not. The stickers really don't help. Maybe a slicker surface to wipe hits off but that's it."

I had a long argument on here once about how I thought it was unfair and a censorship issue to disallow people putting stickers on their hoppers. I honestly felt this was an encroachment of personal rights and freedoms, but I never championed the cause just so people could cheat easier. That wasn't what it was about for me. Here, they make an argument similar to my old one but then go on to say everyone cheats anyway so what's the big deal? That's just not right...stop the cheating! This is really bad sportmanship...but, you have to expect that I guess from a site that has Jeremy Salm on it's front page talking about his "comeback". I just wish they wouldn't take an issue I actually think was important for self expression and twist it around for cheating purposes.

[aaron_mag]

Originally posted by Shirow
I was referring to the 7-11 comment, not anything else. I'd never let someones nasty blood get on my gear.

Didn't read your post that closely. Now I get it

EDIT: put in quote

[dre1919]

^^
[edit]Whoops! Thought you were talking about my post.[/edit]

I just think these pros suck. They are so obsessed with winning at all costs they don't even play fair anymore. They don't even try, and they're becoming quite cocky about it. Like they're so good or something...I'm sure there are lots of players that could put them on their butts. (My team and I would love to try) The players themselves aren't the only ones at fault though...if the league or tournament lets them get away with it then they are just as guilty as the player IMHO. I say, this tourney that allowed Chris to shoot this guy in the head, whether it really knocked him out or not, should have kicked Chris out...celebrity or not. You just don't bonus ball a guy in the head.

[ogre55]

In my last post I did not comment on the "LaSoya's bonus balls to the head" incident, because I did not know if it was just gossip or not. However, apparently, this really happened.

My take on this whole thing is that I am suprised Mr. LaSoya can walk. Why, do you ask.

Because if someone had assaulted (and I use the word assalt because what Mr. LaSoya did was well beyond what would typically happen in a paintball tournament) me in this fashion, I would at least call the cops, if not return the favor using whatever was handy (marker, foot, pallate barrier, his own arm as I ripped it from his still screaming body and beat him with it).

Ok, so now I expect to be flamed for inciting violence on a paintball field. However, I feel what Mr. LaSoya did goes well beyond the pale. It is akin to a baseball player hitting an opposing player with a bat. I honestly think that he should have spent a couple of nights in jail learning just how far his pro attitude will get him with some of the more seasoned memebers of out penal system.

Ogre

[dre1919]

What I didn't understand about the whole thing is why he was playing in an Amatuer level tourney. Apparently the rule they were using was he and any other pro players couldn't be on the field at the same time for the same team. However, it seems to me if he's a declared "pro" player he shouldn't be allowed to drop down into the amatuer ranks below him and play unless he plans on staying there. It seems to me, if he was coupled with some really good amatuer players it's just a way to get some easy free prizes if they win. That, and I garauntee if that was me and I "blacked out" from getting shot repeatedly in the head, all I can say is when I was released from the hospital he better not be in the same town.

[ogre55]

Dre: I guess we're both itchin' for a flamin'.

LOL

Ogre

[syk]

I don't know who asked the question but yes you can buy a 'lanche jersey with lasoyas name on it from Warped. I saw some kid walking around in a Chris Lasoya jersey at the big game at canobie. Also saw some kids in GZ jerseys and a Dynasty one

[elpimpo]

Lasoya and salm were allowed to play because am teams are allowed one pro player on the field and 2 on the roster. As for lasoya cheating i dont get it, he is a really good player. All he needs to do is try and hed do just as good, but it seems its a sin to him to get out on the break so he has to take a dive on it but its no big deal to get out off the break. I just don't get it.

[i-luv-my-rt]

I never said I do it b/c others do I just said i have gotten used to it.

[FESTUS33]

First time I played agains him was
World Cup 95 w/S.O.B's, He cheated
on us then, and has done it every
time I ever saw him play. None of
this really suprises Me, it's the
way he is and the way he'll be
until he get's himself Banned.

[ogre55]

Originally posted by FESTUS33
First time I played agains him was
World Cup 95 w/S.O.B's, He cheated
on us then, and has done it every
time I ever saw him play. None of
this really suprises Me, it's the
way he is and the way he'll be
until he get's himself Banned.

Banned? Banned from what? Salm pulled of the most heinous stunt in recent memory, was caught and then admitted it. And yet here he is, play in a tournament less than two months later. It is a sad state of affairs, and we, as the paintball public, are sad for allowing it to happen.

I would walk out of any tournament where I saw that schmuck (Salm, not LaSoya) play.

What a crock.

Ogre

[FESTUS33]

Agree'd but sooner or later We as a community
will be forced to do something, or face the
extinction of any credibility we've built
as a legitimate sport. Baseball,Football,
and all other major sports I can think of
have rules and reg's to deal with this kind
of garbage, why should'nt we.