Oh goody a new Kingman gun!

[Load SM5]

I was flipping through the latest APG and noticed Kingman has a new gun out called the Electra. One question....do they think we are complete tools? The spyder is a good enough marker but does changing the way it cocks, adding a site rail or bottomline and putting a sear tripping e-frame on it make it a new and revolutionary marker? They also included a fold out guide, in APG, to all of Kingman's guns and I counted 20 not including the Electra or the Hammer pumps. So a grand total of 21 variations of the same thing.

And someone please fill me in on what JAVA is? They're stamping that on other companie's products and selling it as something new and I have no clue what it is other that a slang term for coffee.

Am I missing something?

[darklord]

JAVA is Kingman's way of saying "look at the snazzy different colors!", pretty much. For example, the "java" edition of the Shutter is either purple or black, instead of the standard red and blue. Kingman probably comes out with such a variety since spyders are generally entry-level markers, and newbies see all the different "variations" and thikn "Gee there are so many options to choose from, I want to be unique" or something. Most newbs don't know how to upgrade when they first get into the sport, maybe other than a barrel, so all these variations offer newbs a wide selection of markers to choose from.

I really don't get why Kingman does it either...maybe it's cheap or at little cost for them, but for me it just seems like they're nurturing the "newb marker" aspect of their company.

[magman007]

java is their not so custom custom line of stuff. Compare it to the m class of bmw's. but the bmw's are custom...


the java is usually a special color or something like that

[cphilip]

Well they sure are very good at marketing stuff thats for sure. I mean you change a little here put a new color out and call it a whole new marker and guess what? IT SELLS! Heck I don't blame them. If it works it works.

[EsPo]

i cant find a difference between any of there recent line of guns, e99 em1 ect ect.. they all seem like the exact same thing..

[snakestang]

Originally posted by cphilip
Well they sure are very good at marketing stuff thats for sure. I mean you change a little here put a new color out and call it a whole new marker and guess what? IT SELLS! Heck I don't blame them. If it works it works.

I could not agree more! If AGD would do the same thing it would be do nothing but increase sales. I can say that at least Kingmans product is reasonably reliable and economical.

It could be compared to new cars. Every time someone puts a new badge or stereo in a previous model you get a huge add campaign. Whatever helps to sell.

[yeahthatsme]

i cant find a difference between any of there recent line of guns, e99 em1 ect ect..

dude the em1 is fully electric, its not just a sear tripper like the e-99 and such.


the new marker looks nice though, i like the milling and stuff.

[mag-hatter]

spyders are simi auto talons with electro frames.

[mykroft]

The EM1 is not related to the rest of Kingman's line. It's really a variant on the Bushmaster/Intimidator/Impulse type stacked tube Electro-pneumatic.

Everything else they make are stacked-tube blowbacks, with some electrinic sear grips available.

OK stuff, but not stellar, and there are much better options in the blowback market, like PMI Pirahna's, Mokal Fokus's and AM Sentinels.

[Ov3rmind]

I really wish Kingman hadn't abondoned the EM1. I think it had some potential if people had just given it a chance and Kingman let the marker evolve. However, I'm sick of seeing all the stacked tube blow backs they keep pumping out.

[darklord]

Kingman didn't abandon the EM1...they stopped producing it and came out with the EM1 modify, which had a $500-600 price tag. People thought "hey, why spend that much on a spyder when I can get a better marker for the same price?", and thus, Kingmand didn't abandon it, but the market for paintball guns did.

[Kevmaster]

whoa! I havnt heard about a new kingman marker...for a week or so!! Man, those Kingman guys must be slacking off over there

[xmetal2001]

Originally posted by snakestang


I could not agree more! If AGD would do the same thing it would be do nothing but increase sales.

If AGD did that i'd be forced to find new forums...

[wimag]

yeah its too bad they have a huge assortment of markers. Too bad they have mass marketing to sell all theose markers. The flashy ads, bombardment of media will only draw more (NEW) people into this sport. If the sport relied on AGD, WDP, and WGP alone for marketing do you actually think there would be 7,000,000 people playing now??

Hey they make a decent marker, i started on one way back when. Why?? Becasue there marketing drew me in, and my Spyder still works.
Before crapping on or making fun on their company keep in mind not every interested player is gonna shell out $1000+ for a SFL.

[FutureMagOwner]

id only buy an electra if it had carmen electra annodized naked in 2 tone graphic color or whatever weird buzz words they use now to try and say they look cool