Oh goody a new Kingman gun!

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  • billmi
    Tech Editor - WARPIG.com
    • May 2001
    • 810

    #16
    I think Kingman has a script written in FORTH (only because it's an outdated obscure language, that some cool people still use)on a Timex Sinclair that randombly combines various bolt on accessories and anodizing colors, then picks a name from a list for the new model each month.

    Every time they design one new accessory (like a new electronic grip with a different data display) the number of gun combinations that the program can generate increases geometrically.

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    • kevmaster
      Owners Group Div: Director
      • Oct 2001
      • 5475

      #17
      bill your last two posts made my day....you are amazing!!

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      • FordPrefect
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        • Mar 2002
        • 1053

        #18
        Re: Oh goody a new Kingman gun!

        Originally posted by Load SM5
        I counted 20 not including the Electra or the Hammer pumps. So a grand total of 21 variations of the same thing.
        Really? Last time I saw a Kingman fold-out ad, I counted and it was somewhere around 12. That was maybe 3 months ago.
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        • halB
          Registered User
          • Sep 2002
          • 953

          #19
          guy had one at the field on sunday, looked purdy and shot pretty well. nice gun is all i have to say.

          btw, sear tripping electros are revolutionary, kingmann was the first to give an electro trigger to a price everyone could afford

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          • halB
            Registered User
            • Sep 2002
            • 953

            #20
            Originally posted by mag-hatter
            spyders are simi auto talons with electro frames.
            technically, that would be an autococker with f5 conversion, eblade, raceframe, or whatever the hell else is out there.

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            • Load SM5
              Scruffy Administrator

              • Oct 2000
              • 6772

              #21
              Re: Re: Oh goody a new Kingman gun!

              Originally posted by FordPrefect


              Really? Last time I saw a Kingman fold-out ad, I counted and it was somewhere around 12. That was maybe 3 months ago.
              8 new guns in 3 months! Wow, they're cranking them out. Tom you slacker what's wrong with you?


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              • autoduk
                I will eat you!
                • Aug 2002
                • 134

                #22
                ya i hate kingman. The products suck, i have a spyder and i am ashamed of it. To think that the only reason they sell them for 70 dollars (the compact) is because they are made in some shop by (probly) underpaid communist people in china. Unlike the good old AGD guns. Made by North Americans who take pride in their work, and research.

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                • adam shannon
                  Registered User
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 805

                  #23
                  [QUOTE]Originally posted by billmi
                  [B]I think Kingman has a script written in FORTH (only because it's an outdated obscure language, that some cool people still use)on a Timex Sinclair that randombly combines various bolt on accessories and anodizing colors, then picks a name from a list for the new model each month.

                  Every time they design one new accessory (like a new electronic grip with a different data display) the number of gun combinations that the program can generate increases geometrically.

                  that sounds like the same program stephen king uses to pump out new books.
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                  • FooTemps
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                    • Sep 2001
                    • 6702

                    #24
                    Sheesh... I wonder how many more markers they will come out with in the next 4 months... 10? 20? 1376866537348563?

                    with Kingman you don't really know how far they'll go... It's kinda like they're beating a dead horse.

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                    • billmi
                      Tech Editor - WARPIG.com
                      • May 2001
                      • 810

                      #25
                      Originally posted by halB

                      btw, sear tripping electros are revolutionary, kingmann was the first to give an electro trigger to a price everyone could afford
                      Actually it was the Black Dragon that was first to market it in that price bracket.

                      Interestingly, a well known company in paintball filed a patent application on both using a solenoid, and using a pneumatic ram to trip a sear. They traded that patent application (which is, I believe still pending) to a company that was about to release a product that would be covered by the patent. The company that owns the patent application now will be in a very strong position if/when the patent issues, because it would cover almost all of the solenoid tripped guns out there on the market today.

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                      • MantisMag
                        Dim Sum
                        • Dec 2001
                        • 1895

                        #26
                        mmmmmm carmen electra. i mean ummm. what were we talking about again?

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                        • SpongeBobSquarePants
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                          • Jan 2002
                          • 3296

                          #27
                          Its not only kingman who does the change a little bit and call it a new marker but all manufactures do this but not at the high rate and which kingman does once a week or so. Take AGD for example great company they have what 6 markers, classic, mini, retro, emag, x mag and sydarm. But if you look at them all they are all basically the same thing you have a single tupe valve and bolt setup. But for every step up the marker gets better and better something new and improved is added (sounds like kingman but only better) the same can be said about wgp or wdp. I think kingman would get alot more business if they used the AGD approach get there name out of the newb line of markers and make more competitive one. I mean tippmann has equal sales and the 98 custom hasnt changed in years.

                          Also halb if you are compareing a electro cocker to a talon with a electro grip you are a complete and utter moron. I dont mean to flame but you cant say that you go get a elcetro talon and ill go get a eorracle and will see who wins. Saying what you said is just not being realistic
                          Last edited by SpongeBobSquarePants; 01-01-2003, 02:49 PM.

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                          • RTMAGBOY13
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 470

                            #28
                            hahhaha this gun will just be the same as all other lame spyder guns there goin down the drain so they just try to throw out more guns so poeple will buy them........because everyone is into airgun designs, smart parts, and wdp

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                            • billmi
                              Tech Editor - WARPIG.com
                              • May 2001
                              • 810

                              #29
                              Originally posted by RTMAGBOY13
                              hahhaha this gun will just be the same as all other lame spyder guns there goin down the drain so they just try to throw out more guns so poeple will buy them........because everyone is into airgun designs, smart parts, and wdp
                              I would be very surprised if AGD, Smart Parts and WDP combined (not counting the Tippmanns that WDP distributes in Europe) come close to the total number of paintguns that Kingman sells every year.

                              Brass Eagle's annual report said that last year they sold just short of 1 million paintguns.

                              Neither of these companies may be on the high end, but there are a LOT more customers out there looking to buy low cost paintguns.

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                              • magman007
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                                • Jun 2001
                                • 7579

                                #30
                                Originally posted by SpongeBobSquarePants
                                Also halb if you are compareing a electro cocker to a talon with a electro grip you are a complete and utter . morone

                                so he has a bad italian name?????



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