Oh goody a new Kingman gun!

[Wheelman]

All I know is that a turd is still a turd no matter what it looks like after it hits the wall

[SpongeBobSquarePants]

magman so i cant spell so sue me but i think i got my point across

[paint magnet]

Especially when you see them advertise the guns right beside each other...

Like the Esprit and Imagine, they change the name and all one has that the other doesn't is a gas though foregrip...
That would be like calling a backbottle Automag and a bottomline Automag a mag and a supermag or something...

Anyway Carmen Electra is hot

[halB]

more spyders, more choices so you get all that you want and nothing you dont. i know people who get the espirit and slap on a lotta custom stuff, i know people who dont care and get the imagine.

[billmi]

Originally posted by paint magnet
Like the Esprit and Imagine, they change the name and all one has that the other doesn't is a gas though foregrip...
That would be like calling a backbottle Automag and a bottomline Automag a mag and a supermag or something...

Haha....
Yeah, that would be like calling a powerfed, backbottle Automag an Automag, and calling a vertical bottle powerfed Automag with some cosmetic cuts in the body a Minimag (even though it's actually bigger). Oh.... Wait....


See you on the field,
-Bill Mills

[halB]

why u getting freaked out bout the names? its pretty simple. instead of saying electronic spyder without a foregrip or drop forward they just say espiriti. its jsut a simple way of not having to say so much

[Dern]

Why are so many people dissing on low level guns like Piranhas and Spyders etc. They are perfectly good guns! They are what get probably 90% of people into the sport. I started playing pball a year ago using a Piranha. I didn't want to fork out 400 dollars for a new gun that I may never use again if I decided I didn't like ths sport. Besides, there are plenty of people that upgrade their piranhas and spyders a whole lot for only like 200-300 total including the gun price, and they work pretty damn well. People don't diss on pump guns but they do diss on low end semis, I don't get it. All that crap about higher priced guns being more accurate and longer ranged is stupid.

Kingman and PMI and all other clone guns are what carry this sport. They are the peons of the medieval system.

[magman007]

Originally posted by halB
espiriti.

ah, another italian?


sorry, it is funny to me!

[halB]

Originally posted by Dern
Why are so many people dissing on low level guns like Piranhas and Spyders etc. They are perfectly good guns! They are what get probably 90% of people into the sport. I started playing pball a year ago using a Piranha. I didn't want to fork out 400 dollars for a new gun that I may never use again if I decided I didn't like ths sport. Besides, there are plenty of people that upgrade their piranhas and spyders a whole lot for only like 200-300 total including the gun price, and they work pretty damn well. People don't diss on pump guns but they do diss on low end semis, I don't get it. All that crap about higher priced guns being more accurate and longer ranged is stupid.

Kingman and PMI and all other clone guns are what carry this sport. They are the peons of the medieval system.

damn straight, you wouldnt believe what you can do with these guns. after im done, my things gonna be at 200 psi, unchoppable, witha roller sear trigger system (cause me no likey e frames)

[845]

I think this one looks pretty cool. If they have another Spyder/free entrance fee promotion at the IAO I will probably buy this one. Unless they come out with a newer cooler looking one by the IAO (more than likely they will come out with 10 cooler looking ones). Atleast they are getting better looking. They no longer have that ugly Emag poser grip frame the AMG had.

[halB]

just read this part

Also halb if you are compareing a electro cocker to a talon with a electro grip you are a complete and utter moron. I dont mean to flame but you cant say that you go get a elcetro talon and ill go get a eorracle and will see who wins. Saying what you said is just not being realistic

spongebob, your a moron. i wasnt comparing performance, a guy said a spyder with an e frame was like a talon with an electronic trigger. well, if you think justa bit youll notice that a talon is a pump, therefore closedbolt gun. therefore, if it was electronic, it would be a shocker or a cocker with an e kit on it.

dummy

[Ov3rmind]

well, if you think justa bit youll notice that a talon is a pump, therefore closedbolt gun. therefore, if it was electronic, it would be a shocker or a cocker with an e kit on it.

Wow, so Mags equal Spyders, and they both equal Angels, which also equal those Stingrays! After all, they're all open bolt. Shockers, Cockers, and Talons actually operate more differently than people think (of course, that doesn't matter when people are spewing insults).

[Dern]

This is the kinda thread that that one guy was complaining about in his thread called "what I think of these forums" or something like that. It starts as good arguable topic and then the flaming begins and turns it into the who is best war. Stop calling each other morons and dumbasses etc. It goes no where!

[WARPED1]

A guy at my field had just bought an E-99,that thing works great for a blowback electrogrip sear tripper.

[halB]

Originally posted by Ov3rmind

Wow, so Mags equal Spyders, and they both equal Angels, which also equal those Stingrays! After all, they're all open bolt. Shockers, Cockers, and Talons actually operate more differently than people think (of course, that doesn't matter when people are spewing insults).

fine, you try to make a talon electropneumatic open bolt. im just saying, considering the need of dual solenoids and other crap, itd be more similar to cockers and shockers than spyders.