Proof that an autococker shoots further?

[strongboy2005]

Originally posted by BeerCitySk8brds
I can't get on that site. But, if it leaves at the same speed it will go the same distance unless it has back spin.

But, didnt AGD say that the Flatline didn't do anything? Cause it isn't like balls have that much friction or anything.

That is beside the fact. What this theory states is that the ball continues to accelerate after leaving the gun on an autococker but in an automag it decelerates immediately afterwards. Thus, giving the autococker an edge on distance. (simple logic really)

[Dayspring]

If the ball exits the barrel of a Mag and is chronoed at 290, and the 'cocker's ball exits at 290, then that's as fast as they'll go. Their acceleration rate has nothing to do with it. Once they both leave the barrel, they are going as fast as they will go. 290... Your physics need work...

Originally posted by strongboy2005
What about in space? If you think about it there is no friction in space, but the ball would reach it's maximum acceleration and hold it perfectly forever. If the mag accelerates the ball faster than the autococker then, in theory, it would reach maximum velocity sooner and level off. The autococker would have a higher maximum velocity due to the slower acceleration rate.

[ffcocker]

hey

hey guys read my entire post i replied with that bs to prove that u can make anything sound true with the right amount of bs skills lol

[strongboy2005]

Originally posted by Dayspring
If the ball exits the barrel of a Mag and is chronoed at 290, and the 'cocker's ball exits at 290, then that's as fast as they'll go. Their acceleration rate has nothing to do with it. Once they both leave the barrel, they are going as fast as they will go. 290... Your physics need work...

No that's as fast as they go in a foot. Who's to say that they won't continue to accelerate another foot?

[strongboy2005]

Originally posted by BeerCitySk8brds
if it leaves at the same speed it will go the same distance

not necesarily. if one continues to accelerate even a millisecond longer it could affect the distance by up to 20 feet.

[Dayspring]

Modern physics. Once they exit the barrel, there is no force moving the ball forward, other than the momentum gained inside the barrel.

Originally posted by strongboy2005

No that's as fast as they go in a foot. Who's to say that they won't continue to accelerate another foot?

[strongboy2005]

Originally posted by Dayspring
Modern physics. Once they exit the barrel, there is no force moving the ball forward, other than the momentum gained inside the barrel.

so you're saying that a paintball will reach maximum acceleration at the tip of the barrel? I would say otherwise. Inside the barrel the ball is under constant friction, and it is actually limited on acceleration, but after leaving the end of the barrel the laws of aerodynamics kick in and the round shape of the ball, along with the spin of the ball, will continue to accelerate the ball, probably at a slower rate, but by any means the ball will still be accelerating. Wind resistance ceases to become a factor after the trajectory of the ball is set.

[strongboy2005]

Originally posted by strongboy2005

so you're saying that a paintball will reach maximum acceleration at the tip of the barrel? I would say otherwise. Inside the barrel the ball is under constant friction, and it is actually limited on acceleration, but after leaving the end of the barrel the laws of aerodynamics kick in and the round shape of the ball, along with the spin of the ball, will continue to accelerate the ball, probably at a slower rate, but by any means the ball will still be accelerating. Wind resistance ceases to become a factor after the trajectory of the ball is set.

again, this would explain why backspin improves distance. The acceleration through the barrel would be the same, but after leaving the barrel the ball would hold its acceleration more firmly because of the backspin. The backspin aerodynamically promotes less wind resistance, and improves distance by continuing the acceleration of the ball just a split second longer than a regular ball would begin to decellerate.

[Dayspring]

Originally posted by strongboy2005

so you're saying that a paintball will reach maximum acceleration at the tip of the barrel?

Yup. Once the force of the air is removed from behind the ball, it will continue in the direction fired, but will not continue to accelerate.

[Dayspring]

Um, you can't quote yourself as a resource.

[BeerCitySk8brds]

it can't gain speed after it leaves the barrel. If someone can prove this I would crap my pants.

[strongboy2005]

my bad. but the point still stands. a ball, once it leaves the barrel, MAY still accelerate some. I'm saying for a fraction of a second the autococker might still be accelertating while the automag would have already begun decelerating.

[strongboy2005]

Originally posted by BeerCitySk8brds
If someone can prove this I would crap my pants.

LOL

[Dayspring]

Yes. Alot of things MAY happen. Lightning MAY strike me dead. Or I MAY win the Bronze Medal in Female Gymnastics (FYI- I'm male). But it's NOT happening. Why would the ball be decelerating in the Mag and not the Autococker? What's doing it? Don't say friction. That's a barrel issue.

Originally posted by strongboy2005
my bad. but the point still stands. a ball, once it leaves the barrel, MAY still accelerate some. I'm saying for a fraction of a second the autococker might still be accelertating while the automag would have already begun decelerating.

[spantol]

Once the ball leaves the barrel, for a fraction of a second, I become the queen of England.