Paintball prank spurs crusade

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  • 1stdeadeye
    Still around????
    • Jun 2002
    • 8501

    #16
    Oy

    These kids need a serious attitude readjustment by their fathers. Preferably in the woodshed!

    Dummies like these are the reason people look down on our sport.

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    • cledford
      Registered User
      • Feb 2001
      • 1386

      #17
      I think we should blame Brass Eagle - period. I have heard so many horror stories from my girl-friend (here friends knwo I play)and personally just since Xmas about stupid things that parents are allowing with paintball guns that I don't even get phased anymore.

      It used to be that to buy paint, air or guns you had to walk into a paintball store with a vested interest in seeing a parent educated about eye safey and the guns. Now with JT, Brass Eagle, and Tippmann stuff avalable in every local Walmart, Kmart, Galyan's and Sports Authority - with no real training for the sales reps (who don't care about the sport anyhow) parent are buying these things "off the shelf" with no word of warning. I've got at least 2-3 people a week since Xmas who approach me at work (they know I play) and ask if it's safe if their kids "play out back" (unsupervised) and if goggles are really necessary. (They, in almost every case skimp on the goggles) I even had one person tell that it "wasn't that dangerous" because she made here son turn his marker down before going out to play.

      Go figure.

      -Calvin
      From a poster at PB Nation:

      ""Jim, back to your cave. Bob Long is on the batphone..."

      MY FEEDBACK

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      • halB
        Registered User
        • Sep 2002
        • 953

        #18
        **poof** YOU KNOW BETTER!! AGD , and ignorant ones at that.

        im 16 years old, i work in paintball, im also an amateur airsmith. i mean, i have NO trouble getting anything, i just buy it from my boss. but this is bull****. ok, heres where i stand

        1) YES an adult should buy the paintgun, i dont think 10 year olds should be able to buy one
        2) YES, the parenst should be RESPONSIBLE!!! in the incident in this article, the parents should have been charged with felony assault with a deadly weapon. tough? yes, but a parent should know about their childs whereabouts, especially where their paintball gun is.
        3)NO, do not restrict a kids ability to get paintballs or parts or refills!! think about it, if a 12 year old kid goes to kmart to get paintballs, his dad probably drove him there. all your doing is pissing off the parents. the parents already bought them the damn gun, so why make them keep on going though crap?

        god i hope that guy dies
        Last edited by AGD; 01-19-2003, 01:24 AM.

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        • 845
          Banned
          • Nov 2001
          • 1809

          #19
          If its such a problem the state should build a BYOP free firld as stated above. We really dont have that problem around me. There is always going to be some turd who has to go shoot up a sign, but he could do that just as easily with spray paint. You dont need a license to possess spray paint. Also this Sullivan guy is going on this crusade without knowing what he is doing. It is like trying to get golf banned because someone hit you with a golf ball. And you son owns golf clubs so that makes you a professor golf. Kids are immature and it is mainly other kids jobs to make sure they dont do stuff like that. I constantly have to tell the kids at my school that shooting cars/houses/etc is moronic.


          Woh this is long.

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          • Emagster
            Mags over Cockers any day
            • Aug 2002
            • 338

            #20
            they is always the few people that will take everything to far. give um an inch and the take a mile. no matter how many people that are around that can actually be resposible with a paintball gun, people only see the people that misuse them.
            Looking for a gun

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            • Automaggin2
              Registered User
              • Sep 2002
              • 2506

              #21
              You people gotta stop complaining about how its giving the "sport" a bad name. who cares! every sport gets a bad name. football gets a bad name cause kids die or get paralyzed while playing it! and hockey, many see all the fights on TV and say hockey is all fighting.

              everyone has to remember, there are always gonna be a idiots in life, just deal with it.
              Dub V

              Where greatness is learned
              and couches are burned

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              • SHAG
                I'm a senior member? wow!
                • May 2001
                • 414

                #22
                Hi,

                Paintball in NJ is screwed period. Liberals in this state love and wait for this stuff to happen. Some on here remember what happened a few years ago when Paintball made the New York news. Several people went about and shot a number of people with a paint gun in the Wayne area. Some cops got up and made a cry about this saying it was wrong and there should have something done.

                This time it's different. A politican was named. when politicans get involved generally something happens, eventually.

                Look at it this way. If paintball became regulated in NJ, alot of things would change. Stores would have to file paperwork on all marker transactions. Living in this state, I am sure the state would like some more cash by the way of transaction fees on each marker. That would hamper those in the state selling markers via the Internet. Paintballers would have to pay for a firearms ID card. At which point you have restricted those under 18. So anyone under 18 could not carry a marker. That's basically killing off alot of the honest playing population of that age group. Eventually, someone will factor in the number of fields we have in the state. So some how the state will figure something to charge them. Who knows NJ paintballers might have a "waiting period" for a marker! That borders rediculous for the average weekend warrior in this state.

                So really there is money to be made.

                Also to make another point, for years lawmakers thought of trying to catgorize paintball as a firearm sport.

                In short, Paintball will be mired in red tape and beauracy for several "special" individuals. However, if the state of NJ made sensible laws (NJers insert chuckle here) something along the lines 18 or older to purchase and/or to play it might change things a little bit. It may hurt the younger player but allow a better less red tape approach to the matter. But as the old adage goes, only time will tell. NJers so band together if something does happen from all this, get our collective tails together, and fight it.


                Now onto the second part, the mega sports stores and mega super stores like Wal mart are some responsible. Paintball explosive rise in popularity allowed these stores to gain access to the product and sell it. It's America and it's pretty much allowed. However, these same stores should stick to the basic sports and that s it. Seriously would you buy SCUBA equipment from Wal Mart? How come Wal mart does sell skateboard items? Sports Authority is the same boat. Stick to selling baseballs and basketballs. Leave the shooting sports to the outdoor stores or to those .

                I was in Walmart the other day. I saw a BE Stingray with goggles, hopper and paint for 80 bucks. You get a 25 pack of CO2 for 12 bucks. So for about 90 bucks you get to cuase mischief and headaches for the 99 percent of us who are legit.

                In short, Paintball will be mired in red tape and beauracy for several "special" individuals. However, if the state of NJ made sensible laws (NJers insert chuckle here) something along the lines 18 or older to purchase and/or to play it might change things a little bit. It may hurt the younger player but allow a better less red tape approach to the matter. But as the old adage goes, only time will tell. NJers so band together if something does happen from all this, get our collective tails together, and fight it.

                Later,
                Alan
                Paintball cannot be that big. No one has really been able to sponsor a stock car or a race yet. (local people do not count in this case )
                My Feedback

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                • HoppysMag
                  Hoppy's en Fuego!!!
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 3494

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Automaggin2
                  You people gotta stop complaining about how its giving the "sport" a bad name. who cares! every sport gets a bad name. football gets a bad name cause kids die or get paralyzed while playing it! and hockey, many see all the fights on TV and say hockey is all fighting.

                  everyone has to remember, there are always gonna be a idiots in life, just deal with it.
                  Hopefully you are the only person with that attitude else wise paintballs screwed for good... the differanc between paintball and football is the word GUN. you add gun infront of anything and some pissed off parent will start complaining.then add in the idotic youth ( that i reluctantly am a part of) of america ( god bless it, and shallow out the gene pool while your at it)that think bringing pain to others some how can make thier little shriveled manhood grow and sprout some balls, cause frankly your a big man shooting at people that are defenceless, un aware, and all out freaked after getting hit and you have to speed away in a car afterwards... i garrentee you if anyone ever shot me in a drive by paintballing i would personaly kill them on the spot.

                  we will see who cares when we cant play paintball anymore... oh and last time i checked kids wernt doing drive by puntings, or taking slap shots at houses.
                  "You have not converted a man because you have silenced him." -John Morley

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                  • Automaggin2
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 2506

                    #24
                    Im just stating my opinion, i mean some people flip out when someones dog gets shot and it makes it into the local newpaper in the section no one looks at. Like i said, people do stupid stuff, just ignore it. Its New Jersey, everything and anything is either illegal or regulated in this state, its just a matter of time before paintball gets regulated. Hell, i cant even ride a quad 2 feet from my house without gettin a damn ticket.
                    Dub V

                    Where greatness is learned
                    and couches are burned

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                    • HoppysMag
                      Hoppy's en Fuego!!!
                      • Oct 2001
                      • 3494

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Automaggin2
                      Im just stating my opinion, i mean some people flip out when someones dog gets shot and it makes it into the local newpaper in the section no one looks at. Like i said, people do stupid stuff, just ignore it. Its New Jersey, everything and anything is either illegal or regulated in this state, its just a matter of time before paintball gets regulated. Hell, i cant even ride a quad 2 feet from my house without gettin a damn ticket.
                      hell if you shot my dog you wouldnt make it up the street with out atleast 10 or 20 pellets of buck shot in you....

                      if you ignore the stupid stuff it only gets worse... wanna know why you cant ride your quad? cause some one did something stupid and got killed, and nobody stopped them because "it doesnt matter"
                      "You have not converted a man because you have silenced him." -John Morley

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                      • IAMJaws
                        Canadian Badass
                        • Dec 2001
                        • 102

                        #26
                        This to me is so-so article to me.

                        I don't agree with the proposed legal initatives, but informing parents of the basic saftey and operation of equipment I can certainly agree with that, Ignorance is far from bliss.

                        I think there needs to be more outreach to parents from the industry.
                        A.K.A. MagShark in the PV forums(www.zer0.ca)

                        "Adrenaline keeps me in the Game,
                        Adrenaline you don't even feel the Pain.
                        Wilder than your Wildest Dreams,
                        when your going to Extremes,
                        It takes Adrenaline..."
                        -Gavin Rossdale

                        OUT

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                        • mag-hatter
                          OOOOOOOOO-RAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 1069

                          #27
                          paintball guns cause pain as flies cause garbage

                          are they going to ban snowball fights or baseball bats? those cause pain as well.
                          MY PRETTY PRETTY FREEFLOW ON EBAY! GET SOME WHILE ITS HOT AND FALLING OUT OF THE COW!

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                          • IAMJaws
                            Canadian Badass
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 102

                            #28
                            paintball guns cause pain as flies cause garbage

                            are they going to ban snowball fights or baseball bats? those cause pain as well.
                            you know hat every time sonthing like this comes up I hear that anology. Problem is that I only ever hear that on paintball forums, mags, etc. but never are these points made anywhere else. Every time one of these incidents happen there should be some one from the industry should be screaming (and I mean Screaming) Bloody Murder over this kind of thing.

                            that's all I got....
                            A.K.A. MagShark in the PV forums(www.zer0.ca)

                            "Adrenaline keeps me in the Game,
                            Adrenaline you don't even feel the Pain.
                            Wilder than your Wildest Dreams,
                            when your going to Extremes,
                            It takes Adrenaline..."
                            -Gavin Rossdale

                            OUT

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                            • einhander619
                              Swollen Member
                              • Mar 2002
                              • 814

                              #29
                              We've all seen this before, and it's fairly obvious paintball is screwed. So everyone, on the day that paintball is made illegal everywhere, bunker a liberal.
                              I'm nothing more than text to you...

                              Attention
                              Getting
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                              • MagDog68
                                A.K.A DoggieWang
                                • May 2001
                                • 1063

                                #30
                                Originally posted by shartley
                                Oh so totally hit the nail on the head! Today's society is absolutely blameless - responsibility is always passed on to TV, Teacher and the Government - when will people stop and take responsibility for their own actions and that of their children?

                                The problem with "knee-jerk" reactions are that they are just that - ill prepared and often overstated remedies to issues that don't exists. Banning markers from children is like banning firearms - it isn't the responsible owners that need to be restricted, it is the criminals (YES DAMNIT - THESE ARE CRIMINALS) that need to be held accountable!

                                Again, just my 3:44am $0.02.

                                ~Fred
                                www.stupidace.com
                                GOOD TRADERS: Tunaman, RogueFactor, ah137, Squeegeekid, Thelar, WebShock

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