Overshooting/Bonus balling...part of the game?

**Load SM5** · 03-02-2003, 09:22 PM

Re: Overshooting/Bonus balling...part of the game?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SyntaxError

My question is, are people too hotheaded?

In a word, yes. Due to frustration of being bunkered out of the pain that comes with taking a few extra shots, players tend to overreact and fly off.

While I agree it shouldn't be done, getting bonus-balled on the way off the field happens. Today, I witnessed the most immature response to a mere 6 extra shots, and I for one would not want to see anyone hurt in a fight just because of a few extra paintballs.

I agree totally. If I get bunkered I expect to take a few extra shots. If there's agame on the line people will lay on the trigger a little longer to make sure that there going to be a break. And the way markers fire these days an extra .5 seconds on the trigger can mean and extra 5 balls. Adrenaline also makes you a little heavier on the trigger than normal.

In addition, when players do not leave the field and continue shooting, especially during blatant elimination situations. Why is it that the other team thought it fit to fire back at point blank range with the intent to hurt, over a bit of trigger bounce causing a few extra hits?

Part of that is the hot-headedness that can come with tourney play and (IMO) the younger players saw it on a PB vid and think that's yelling, cursing, bonus-balling and whining about calls are what the game is about. Again that is just my opinion. I rarely ever see a guy get bunkered in a game and tell the guy that bunkered him "nice move!".

**HoppysMag** · 03-02-2003, 09:27 PM

it all depends on situation... you do that to johnny newbie at my field and i can garentee you they wont find you till the spring thaw... in a tourney against some one when theres a chance he might turn around and shoot back after getting hit, smoke him.... on a dead player walking off in any situation. no you shouldnt shoot

**TheBigRaguPB4L** · 03-02-2003, 09:29 PM

Bonus-balling is something you should make a practice. Overshooting is something that should be kept to a minimum, but should seldom happen. It does happen a bit to often, in my opinion.

I've seen dead man walks from a team with only 2 guys left on the field and those two won a 4-2 because of it. Bonus balling will make sure that stupid mistakes like this won't happen.

However, it isn't necessary to shoot that person 5-15 times. Two times is more than adequate. I've always been told also to not stop firing until i see you see it break. Depending on your reaction time and your ROF, waiting for a break on your opponent could be an extra 10 balls. Sometimes you're shooting a string at a person when he gets up to go out. If he happens to take his time and walk into that string, it could mean 5-8 balls before you stop shooting. These things you can't avoid, so really they are just a part of the game.

People should realize that these things happen. Some people don't like to lose. Being shot out means that they lost and it's aggrivating. When you get shot a few more times, it just leads to flared tempers and possible fights. As much as i don't think it's necessary, outbreaks are a part of the game as well. It's going to happen. People don't want to get shot, and getting shot 10 times will piss people off. If they get to far carried away, they're the ones at risk of being penalized for it. Just take it like a grain of salt and keep on your game.

**beefstew** · 03-02-2003, 09:30 PM

i have actually said nice move to someone who has bunkered me, but it was an exceptionally nice bunker

other than that, if you intentionally bonus ball your getting balled back. trigger bouce is supposedly illegal anyway so if you cant handle your marker, people deserve to get pissed.

Heya Beefstew, sig's a little too large. Max allowable is 175x350. See if you can't cut it down a bit. Thanks -Load

**LaW** · 03-02-2003, 09:57 PM

If I get bunkered, and it was a good bunker (not a bunker when its like 5 on 1...) I usually go talk to the guy and let him know that it was a cool move etc etc.

**magman007** · 03-02-2003, 10:01 PM

OK, first off, a mere 6 balls? after your shot the first time or 2, the adrenaline wears off, and those mere 6 balls tend to hurt a lil. THat i can see an over reaction comming out of.

Now me, i will lay on the person untill i clearly se them raise their hand, and call them selves out. ONe problem, is you are suposed to walk off the field with yout hand up, alot of people dont do that, if i dont see their hand up, i will put a ball or 2 into you. Just a lil warning to the ao'ers out there!

Now, i say people need to chill, and dont over react. Paintball is one of the chillest sports, and if your over reacting and cursing, then you all need to look at your selves. were all brothers, and we all need to get along!

**darklord** · 03-02-2003, 10:04 PM

I think the natural reaction to bonus balling is to flip out. But you have to psychologically train yourself to realize that the extra balls you receive were probably by accident. I don't think it's right to shoot someone excessively though. Like the others said, you should expect a few extra hits. I deliver a few extra hits myself until that player calls themself out, due to wiping/cheating... However I don't like it when I have a blatant hit on my lens, and I'm walking to the deadbox, and am bonus balled by an opposing player. That's just not cool.

People need to realize though that this is a game, if not a recreational sport. It's supposed to be fun. If people just train themselves to realize that they should expect a few bonus balls, then we would avoid all of these potential fights.

**IcantBelieveit** · 03-02-2003, 10:10 PM

its expected if you play paintball, that is just the type of game it is. 90% of the time it is unintentional. If i get bonus balled or bunckered, i usually get mad, but i can walk it off, and cool down really quickly and show no hard feeling whatsoever

**RusskiX** · 03-02-2003, 10:31 PM

Until "playing on" is eliminated as a general practice, bonus balls will be a part of the game. Hopefully most baller recognize that fact.

But there will always be a population that is pissed about just getting eliminated and aggresive to boot. I've found that the owners/refs at the fields I play at most will recognize the hotheads and not penalize the regulars who use common sense.

**Skoad** · 03-02-2003, 10:31 PM

it's part of the game, just don't be stupid about it. Usualy if i bonus ball someone due to rof, or not knowing whether they are out or in. i usually say "sorry man blah blah" a half dozen times. In one case i let the guy shoot me in the back.

**IcantBelieveit** · 03-02-2003, 10:36 PM

i would not let someone shoot me just b/c he got bonus balled, screw that, his fault for not yelling loud enough for me to hear if he said he was out

**Miscue** · 03-02-2003, 10:46 PM

I think people are fair game until they raise their gun and signify that they are out. It's simply too hard to tell with certainty when people are eliminated sometimes. This also takes cheating into consideration. They may keep playing after being eliminated, which I say constitutes bonus balls to mark them up more... such that there is no question as to whether they were in or out afterwards... multiple shots = harder to wipe or make excuses.

I dunno what tourny rules are... but I think that raising gun should mean that you are pulling yourself out and nobody can shoot you. If people bonus ball you/overshoot when gun is raised... that's a big no-no. But once gun is raised... that's it.

**madmatt151** · 03-03-2003, 12:46 AM

Bonus balled...

I played last month with a bunch of newbies and they were getting mad at being shot alot, understandably. But when they had the chance, they were lighting me up constantly, and I just shrugged it off. I KNOW its part of the game. I didn't come out here to knit or sew, and I know that I am gooan get hit and it will hurt sometimes. People need to remember that. My biggest aggrivation that day was the "experienced" guy with his *cough* spyder who was screaming bloody murder because he got bunkered and got hit fairly close. He had 4 of my guys pinned, and when they finally were able to get out from his spray of paint, they ran up on him, and he cried. This I didn't undertand. I mean he had to see this coming. The ref told him he should have surrendered when he saw them coming, but he didn't. SO he got shot, its part of the game.

**Army** · 03-03-2003, 01:41 AM

Originally posted by magman007

Now me, i will lay on the person untill i clearly se them raise their hand, and call them selves out. ONe problem, is you are suposed to walk off the field with yout hand up, alot of people dont do that, if i dont see their hand up, i will put a ball or 2 into you. Just a lil warning to the ao'ers out there!

I have noticed this too. The loudest complainers, seem to be the ones who stand up and walk off (presumably because they must maintain their cool, "I play like a pro", aloofness to the noobs), with no indication to the field that they are out. I have no problem giving these guys two more to be sure. I always walk off with my gun AND other hand raised high. It is rare that I get a bonus ball, and those tend to be ones I walked into, not intentional shots.

Overshooting/Bonus balling...part of the game?

Overshooting/Bonus balling...part of the game?

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