Overshooting/Bonus balling...part of the game?

[raehl]

Bah.

If you're being a dick just because other people are or may be dicks, you're still a dick.

If you're putting 6 extra shots in someone's back on a bunker move, and are then surprised when they get pissed and turn around and light you up, then I think you're an idiot. You're being a dick, they're being a dick.

Now, when I get shot and stand up to walk off the field, I fully expect to get shot again on the way back - not because people should be bonus balling me, but because it's pretty much inevitable that I'm going to walk through someone's like of fire or the other team just didn't see me get hit and there are still 20 balls flying over my bunker or whatever. You can't be on a paintball field and not expect to be hit. If you think that's possible, try reffing - when you're not behind a bunker, you're going to get shot.


That said, bonus balling is idiotic. It unnecessarily pissed off other people, and if you're wasting you're time shooting at eliminated players, you're NOT shooting at live ones.


When I'm practicing, I'll put one shot on someone I'm bunkering and one shot only. If it bounces or misses or something, then I can shoot again, and if I get eliminated first it's no big deal. In tournaments I'll do 2-3 on bunkers to be sure. And I will agree with everyone else that if I shoot you and you're not calling yourself out I'm going to shoot you more.

But there's no strength of character in making sure everyone knows you're not scared of making an *** of yourself.


Maybe I'm just odd. I play paintball for fun; I could give a rats *** about winning. It's not any fun when everyone else at the field is pissed at you.


- Chris

[spore 283]

I play a lot of tourney paintball. If you are out on the expect to get shot. You should expect to get shot at least 3 times when you get bunkered. when you get shot get off the field as fast as you can and you won't take those extra hits. I don't agree with shooting people to hurt,or with bonus balling players for the hell of it. When playing in higher levels of competion you play to win,and sometimes you have to shoot people 3-6 times to make sure they will leave the field. You also have to remember that when you die there are more players out there still shooting at other players so if you get in the line of fire you might get shoot at 20 bps accidently. Getting shot is part of the game everyone needs to accept it. Not everyone has the correct respect for the game,and will keep shooting you leaving the field. Like I said expect to get shoot thats the game. So when you get hit get off the field and do it fast and you shouldn't take those extra hits.

[PsychoBaller]

I just love it...

when either of the following occurs;

1) You've already been called out and the ref yells that "the player is out" numerous times, I raise my hand signaling I'm out.... and either I get hit another 3-4 times on my hand, or after my hand is already raised, I'm hit another 3-5 times just getting up.

and

2) I'm jogging back to the dead box and I get hit another 3-5 times in the side or back, even if a bunker is not remotely near me, so it makes me wonder what the other team is shooting at....

~da baller

[banzaimf]

I double tapped a guy at 2 feet this past weekend, he had no problems with it, Yay me!

Here's my patented getting off the field move.

Mag goes in the air. Yelling OUT OUT OUT. Head cocked over to try and protect my short neck. Other hand covering the boys, just in case someone gets a little rambunctious. I took one in the pinky this weekend while keeping the jewel drawer covered

[RT pRo AuToMaG]

Overshooting is defiantly part of a game and people just need to get over it. There is a part where it becomes too much (like getting 15+ bonus balls) but i'm fine with 2..3..4..5, maybe even 7-10 in tourneys. When the game is on the line, what do you expect? You give some, you get some. I have a story about this:

I was at my local field when I first got my Matrix. A guy runs down the field to bunker me, and I see all of the little kids with rentals trying to shoot him, so I'm just waiting for him to shoot me. He runs past me, and I don't feel anything, so I ended up shooting him like 6 times in the stomach, just from natural reaction. Next thing I hear is "WHAT! I shot you first!" Happens that he shot me 7 or 8 times in the pack. Now, if he really hadn't shot me, I know he would have lit me up when he realized that he didn't hit me. I apoligezed and it was all cool.

I've also recieved bonus balls a countless number of times, but why complain, guns shoot fast, it's hard to stop, especially if you are in the sweetspot with an emag on hybrid or an RT pro.

[ezrunner]

Well

A: Trigger bounce happens on all types of guns.

B: Bonus balling is bad. It does happen. If you wipe or play unclean, you should be lit up. If you are getting bunkered, the other player can show a little discipline.

When you have someone cold, and you fire 5 shots, and 2 break, that is the game. When you shoot 20 shots and 16 break, that is excessive.

People also need to chill. Take it to a ref.

-rob

[GT]

hmmm....

some intresting posts.

IF I am playing rec, and that is what I play most of the time, I would expect from an experienced player no more than 3 maybe up to 5. anymore than that from an experinced player, we may have words when we get off the field. There is no need for 15bps on my mask or in my back. You guys no dam well when someone has been hit. I have noticed lately that I mostly get eliminations in the first 3~5 shots.

If its a newb i dont mind getting lit up but I will ask them to take it easy on my next time. I am still very impressed by some of the rental tippy's that I swear can hit 12+bps into my bunker.

About a month ago I was at my home field. I was elminted and standing at the back of our field(real small field). The refee had called the game and about 15sec later this guy in a spyder comes blazing out of my left eye. I took 2 to the mask and 2 to the throat. Mind you I am standing infront of a bunker with my bright *** blue angel sitting on the ground leanning againist my leg!! I was so hot, he came real close to an *** whoppin.

About 2 years ago we had a rec game with both of our rec teams and a bunch of nebs. I brought my wife out, girlfriend at the time. the other team had our B players on it she was the last one in the game. I think it was a 4-1 my wife hiding behind a bunker holding on for dear life gets lit by one of our players that should have known better. Hell I even yeld for them to slow play down so she wasnt overwhelmed. That next game I just *happened* to meet this guy in one of our woodsfields. I think he took 5~6 down his back and left leg.
It is simple guys, its a safety issue, especially in rec ball.

Now if I am playing in a tourney,
I dont mind 6~7 good shots from another player. Hey its a tourney, but to be honest I think that will change as we assimilate more players into the game.

its just like karate, car racing etc, control the power you are given or it will be controled for you.

JB

[FalconGuy016]

Re: Overshooting/Bonus balling...part of the game?

Originally posted by SyntaxError


. Today, I witnessed the most immature response to a mere 6 extra shots,

I dont want to sound "immature", but I would be pretty angry if I was bunkered with 6 extra shots. I dont know about you all but I experiance severe pain when im shot from a foot away. However if it was just while I was getting up or walking off... I dunno, it would depend on how blatant it was.

Also, I hardly even shoot 6 balls at a person anyways ... I cant imagine shooting someone an EXTRA 6 times... I seriously cannot imagine myself doing it. I know when he is out, I see it, I stop shooting. I hardly shoot 6 balls at a person anyways to get him out.

[elpimpo]

dude i took 14 balls today (it was by 4 difrent people but still) it hurts ya but if your going to wine i wouldnt recomend tournaments because people bonus ball like nun other. But when you shoot back or almost start a fight thats just gay. i took one straight to the face were my mask didnt cover but its not like the dude was trying to hurt me he just came around and fired

[shartley]

[RamboPreacher]

Re: Overshooting/Bonus balling...part of the game?

Originally posted by SyntaxError
[clip]... Today, I witnessed the most immature response to a mere 6 extra shots, and I for one would not want to see anyone hurt in a fight just because of a few extra paintballs.[clip]

"mere six extra shots"!?!?!?!
okay, I can see that possibly in a firefight when the paint is a flying and sprying is abounding, but in a bunkering situation? hmmmm... 6 extra shots isn't a "few" in my opinion.

However - tournies/spedball is not the same as recball and overshooting rules vary (if they exist at all). My personal feeling is that if you enter the tourney arena, you should be well aware that you may get "shot-up", and be able to deal with it as necesary.

[PolishSausage]

I was with Adam and the reason the fight was started was this. A guy was hit twice or so by some kid in the back, he walked off the field gun in the air, back turned, and the kid kept shooting, hit an at least an extra six times down his arm when he was only 15ft of so from the dead box. The Next issue was the same back player bunkered a kid, looked like a good move. Then you find out that the kid is MAYBE 11 years old, and was reloading at the time. This kid walked off the field with 13 welts from a single move, thats a hell of a lot more than bonus balling or overshooting. I don't care how fast you can shoot, to bunker a kid and hit him 13+ times, that means you knew what you were doing and you're a complete arse! To anyone watching that game, you would've seen the same thing.

In short, the kid was a typical punk with an angel who thinks he can get away with anything. I for one hope he changes his attitude or he's gonna get someone hurt, be it another player or himself...

[Wc Keep]

heres my tke on how to shoot. i put three balls into a person. 1 for the wipe 1 for the bounce and 1 to make sure they are eliminated. if i see a hit and the person doesnt call themselves out ill put 1-2 more into them just to let them get the message that they are out. i never ever overshoot just cause i wouldnt like to get over shot myself.

now a mere 6 extra shots??? syntax i dont think you know what a mere 6 extra shots really are.

[ezrunner]

wc_keep

unless its a ref right?

:-)

-rob

[hitech]

First let me define these terms.

Bonus balling - Purposely shooting someone when you know they are eliminated.
Overshooting - Continuing to shoot someone when you know they are eliminated.

Neither of these has ANY place in paintball. It should be (and usually is) a penalty in a tournament. It should be cause for "discipline" in rec ball games. There is absolutely NO reason for either of those.

That said, I probably shoot players after they are eliminated all the time. The problem is that far too many players won't properly signal their elimination. PUT YOUR HAND UP! KEEP IT UP AS YOU EXIT THE FIELD. Why is this so hard? Prior to about a year ago I am not aware of EVER being overshot or bonus balled. Even in "pro" tournaments. Even when playing against the Iron Men. A friend of mine got all bent out of shape the last time we played because he was yelling hit and the opposing player wouldn't stop shooting. Did he have his hand up? NO. The opposing player even apologized when he realized my buddy was out. It wasn't his fault, however.

When you are eliminated, PUT YOUR HAD UP. Get over it people, leave your egos in the staging area. Walk off the field with you hand up. This isn't hard. NONE of you are good enough to never be eliminated. Get over it.

Egos are the problem.