Overshooting/Bonus balling...part of the game?

[SkElL~ObIsSiS]

In one incident on my field (I had been eliminated) two of my teamates bunkered the last opponent, one teamate eliminated the player. The eliminated player then proceded to imeadiatly rip off his mask. My other teamate simultaniously shot one ball wich hit the eliminated player in the sholder, the eliminated player, for retribution turns and light up my teamate. I walked onto the field grabbed the guy by the throat, bashed him into a bunker, riped his marker out of his hand, threw it and told him to get off my field and property and to never return.

Afterwards I spoke with the guys team captain, I told him I was srry about the action I had to take. He agreed with my reaction and told me that the player would be trown off the team for his behavior. Our two teams are very close and there was no reason for the guy to flip out like that.

[SkElL~ObIsSiS]

During the castle conques I attended last year me and a friend tryed to make a crazy run from the front wall to the center tower in the courtyard, the only problem was thay the back wall had been invaded and was ocupied by the enemy.
We both got lit up like nothing I have ever seen in my life. We walked to the dead box and my friend counted the paint marks on my back, I had gotten hit 28 times on my back alone. My friend was in the same boat.

After that I don't compalin about taking a measly 8-10 "Bonus Balls" granted it's still not pleasant, but it takes a whole lot of paint to make me loose my temper

[Wc Keep]

Re: wc_keep

Originally posted by ezrunner
unless its a ref right?

:-)

-rob

this is a good point you brought up ezrunner. ezrunner was greatly overshot at sc ao day by me. but it wasnt on purpose what happened was i had come out and begun to lay a string of paint down my shooting lane. ezrunner had stepped into this shooting lane and once i noticed that he was in the shooting lane it was already to late because a good 25-30 balls were heading his way.

ezrunner was overshot because he stepped into a shooting lane which many people do.

[JT2002]

come to think of it, there was as pretty funny bonus balling occurance at my field one time. there was this kid there (probably younger than 14) and playing with his orange 2002 timmy with eggo2 and u get the idea. well all night he was being a stuck up d!3k. so much that in a 2 on 1 situation, he was shot out, but hade 2 or 3 used pods lying on the floor. so after taking about five steps to teh outside netting, he turns around and heads back for his pods, which were conviently behind and a little to the right side of a bunker. so he pics them up, and as he steps out the left side of the bunker (out of cover) he gets popped with 3 or so shots, and starts showing off an attitude. Personally myself and several others thought it was funny and had a good laugh at the kid. Damn those snobby ones can be a pain! especially when they think theyre the shiz playing on a sponsored team at that age. lol

[elpimpo]

i still cant beleive how bad peoplecomplaine about getting bonus balled. i know ive said this before but its going to happen. if u dont like it dont play because its going to happen. many times in tourneys we over shoot people its not to be an asse but to intimidate people and it works. or someone will shoot back and get a 1 for 1 i know it sounds cheap but people lose there anger to quick and they pay. any tourney player out there will do the same dont deny it. but ya thats all i have to say

[Ultimator]

No, Overshooting and Bonus balling should not be a part of the game. I have a few occurances that I'm still ticked off about.

One was this weekend. You see at the field I go to, the manager sponsors two teams. One is Team XPB, the other is XPB Kidz. Well anyways to the point, there was about 3 people from Team XPB, one guy from the Kidz, and about 2 other regulars and one newbie playing last sunday. Well the guys from XPB wanted to stay on their team so they did a 3v4. The first game the guy from Kidz and another regular blazed over them .. one ran tape and one ran down the middle. In the next game though, the guy from Kidz and one of the guys from XPB both went into the 50 off break. The guy from Kidz was hit off the break twice so he went to put his gun up right when the guy from XPB came over to bunker him, so the XPB guy thought he was trying to shoot him, so he put about 4 on him. That's understandable. So the guy is now laying on the ground (he's 14 years old) because he took 2 really painful ones to the side and two in the goggles. His gun is laying beside him. Thw guy from XPB comes up ANOTHER TIME and puts 6 more on him. He got hit a total of 12 times, 10 being from about 2 feet away. The kid came over to the sideline where I was reffing and started to tear up and cry. I couldn't believe the guy from XPB did that. He came up again and despite the two blatant marks on the kid's mask and the fact that his gun was laying BESIDE him shot him 6 more times. He apologized and then just walked off like it was nothing. I don't know if he was trying to prove something from before (from when the kid ran down the center and bunkered him) or what but I was mad. If any of the guys from XPB read this I'm not slandering anyone cause I didn't mention any names but if you don't realize that it was wrong too, you have something wrong with you.

The second time something happened was in a team practice. We were playing a 2v3 and right off break my teammate dropped. This made it a 1v3 now. I expected to get bunkered so I came out the left side of my bunker and shot about 3 at a guy coming to bunker me. I saw one break on his thigh and said "Get out!" but he kept running and shot me about 3 times (two hitting me in the same place on the hand ... it was bleeding so bad i thought he cracked my fingernail). THEN he got to the netting, turned around and shot 5 more at me. These weren't quick hits either, my hand was over my head and I had time to turn around and say "What are you doing?!" I just shot about 5 at the closest bunker in anger and sat down. After awhile I walked up to staging and pointed out the break on his thigh and he said in a tourney you don't stop you just keep on running. I explained to him that it was practice and only 1 or 2 is needed to prove the point, and that we don't cheat on our team. He didn't really seem to care and just walked up to get an air fill.

In both cases there was blatant overshooting/bonusballing going on. In both cases it wasn't necessary. So yes, it is a part of the sport, but it shouldn't be there.

[Quiet]

I think it happens and will continue to happen unless there is a cange of some sort in the manner in which the game is played.

For the most part I don't take issue with taking a few extra balls when I get shot out. If I run into a string I know there are probably another ten or so in the air when the first one hits me. When things get fast and furious I know the guys on the other side of the field aren't going to restrain their trigger fingers. BUT, there are far too many players that don't think when they play. I've seen pleyers come around a bunker and nail the guy who is facing the other way 10 or more times in the back. I've seen others put a string on opponents that have their markers well above thier heads. We need to use a lot more restraint in this game before it will be more acceptable to the masses.

I for one would like to see the dead mans walk eliminated, too many players bonus ball others for fear of it (or they are using it as an excuse).

[Jurta]

Ultimator, I know your not trying to slander, but I was playing that game, and it didn't exactly happen that way..

He apologized and then just walked off like it was nothing.

Yes, he did apologize, but he stood around an made sure he was alright, we ALL did. T has been bunkered like that and he knows exactly how it feels. I've personally seen him in so much pain he sat on the ground speechless for about 5 minutes.

I don't know if he was trying to prove something from before

And the answer is no, all the guys we played that game were good friends of ours, we had nothing to prove. After the game we got rolled, we told them all good game, nice move and such. It wa rec ball, we have nothing to prove, we were all out there for fun. I know who you are, and it doesn't matter, Ultimator, we're both right in a sense. But give T some credit.

And the story about y'alls practice, if anyone ever shot me frm the sidelines, I'd smoke 'em with my tank.

Anyway, it's all good. We're all still friends.

[ezrunner]

wc_keep

I was giving WC_keep a hard time. They were playing some hard ball and I was checking a player and got stiched up the back and leg :-)

I was reffing and that makes me a field obstacle, not a player.

GOOD REFS GET SHOT...

Players should not shoot them purposefully, but in this instance, a player was out, behind a bunker and would not raise their gun to signal being out.

The 2 of us reffing that player were calling game and they guys had their mags screaming paint so they didn't hear. We had to step into the paint to get the player off the field.

-rob

[i-luv-my-rt]

I am not even going to respond to this, save myself some flaming. After the wiping thread i am done with the arguing and debating scenarios.

[JT2002]

my-rt we already u know plenty bout getting bonus balled. but for now lets call them insurance shots. lol

[Ultimator]

Originally posted by Jurta
Ultimator, I know your not trying to slander, but I was playing that game, and it didn't exactly happen that way..

He apologized and then just walked off like it was nothing.

Yes, he did apologize, but he stood around an made sure he was alright, we ALL did. T has been bunkered like that and he knows exactly how it feels. I've personally seen him in so much pain he sat on the ground speechless for about 5 minutes.

I don't know if he was trying to prove something from before

And the answer is no, all the guys we played that game were good friends of ours, we had nothing to prove. After the game we got rolled, we told them all good game, nice move and such. It wa rec ball, we have nothing to prove, we were all out there for fun. I know who you are, and it doesn't matter, Ultimator, we're both right in a sense. But give T some credit.

And the story about y'alls practice, if anyone ever shot me frm the sidelines, I'd smoke 'em with my tank.

Anyway, it's all good. We're all still friends.

I feel you bro, but I was just telling it like I saw it. I saw him apologize a few times, then i talked to the guy from Kidz for a second. Then the next thing I know he was walking away. I know he didn't necessarily mean anything by it. I'm not trying to make T look bad, I was just telling my side of the story. Me and the guy from Kidz are good friends and I felt for him when he got done like a beeotch

I didn't really think he was trying to prove something so I wrote I don't know if he was. I didn't think anyone would think anything more than he might have meant something by it. In fact now that I think of it doesn't make much sense, because he probably didn't even know who was on the other side of the bunker.

Agreed, it's still all good. I don't have anything against T for what he did. I know he was all hyped up and stuff like that. But 12 times ..... If I was the guy from Kidz I would've wanted someone to say something too, and I think you would've also. I mean the boy broke down and cried.

Either way, all it was was a game. No hard feelings from either side of the table.

EDIT: Made things more clear.

[SyntaxError]

Re: Re: Overshooting/Bonus balling...part of the game?

Originally posted by FalconGuy016


I dont want to sound "immature", but I would be pretty angry if I was bunkered with 6 extra shots.

Sorry to not clear it up, but the guy kinda stood up while I was shooting across his lane, and it hit him. I apologized though, it definately didnt warrant that response.

[GT]

Re: wc_keep

Originally posted by ezrunner

GOOD REFS GET SHOT...

very true......

jb

[Jurta]

Actually, he didn't really cry.. he sucked it up. I was proud of him for that. He took it well, and I know it hurt .. Anyway, it's all good. See you this weekend.