Chris Lasoya banned from Pan-Am

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • DyNasTy
    Tourny Player Extrodinare
    • Jul 2002
    • 224

    #1

    Chris Lasoya banned from Pan-Am

    "The MSTS finals were held at the Denver, Colorado USA, National Western, Indoor complex, November 23-24. Wayde Samuel was the last player of the Yarddog team facing four of the opponents. Chris Lasoya, bunkered Wayde. His move was very good, but it was not necessary to shoot him twelve times in the head. As a result, Wayde was knocked out cold and was unresponsive. Paramedics deemed it necessary to have him ambulanced to the hospital. He was cat scanned etc.. and released 7 hours later, having suffered a concussion.

    Lasoya claimed he only pulled the trigger 6 or so times while admitting he put 12 balls onto Wayde. It does not matter whether he pulled the trigger 12 times, trigger bounce occured, the marker was set on burst mode
    illegally, or there was a malfunction, pulling the trigger 6 times to shoot someone in the head deliberately is inexcusable. A player, especially a professional level player such as Lasoya with years of experience, is
    responsible for being in control of the marker, marker settings, and particularly of his trigger finger. There is no excuse for putting that many balls onto someone's head or forehead, at point blank range.

    I think this is unacceptable paintball. It is not cool, not fun, hurts the sport and does not impress me one bit. The high rates of fire and this kind of pointblank headshot shooting or any other kind of punishment bunkering is not going to attract recreational paintball players. It does
    nothing but put players at risk for serious injury, blindness in one or both eyes should a goggle system be dislodged or possibly even death.

    It is time to change the rules and get rid of Prima Donnas that think punishment bunkering is a cool thing to do. Shouldn't we, as industry leaders work to protect the industry from players like LaSoya, who are truly no good for the future of paintball? Here is the kicker, LaSoya has been banned "for life" from the Pan Am and the WPF (when the WPF was run by Jim Lively with Bill Bryant as the director of judging). Banned for similar unacceptable behavior. Wayne Samuel runs the largest paintball field in
    Colorado. He and myself also sponsor one of the oldest teams in the country, the Yarddogs. Wayne has informed the MSTS that the Yarddogs will not play in next years MSTS if LaSoya is allowed in the tournament."

    I think this is just pure BS, I know when you go to bunker someone in a tournament your not gonna fire 1 shot, but you could stop yourself after the third or fourth ball.

    heres my questions..
    What is he doing at the Pan-Am
    What was he thinking??

    Thought some pple might be interested in this
    Great traders: Mossmann, Spongebobsquarepants,dtp_junior1
  • yeahthatsme
    aka yeahthatswang
    • Sep 2002
    • 2592

    #2
    i agree man, i also think money should be pulled as a prize, thats one of the reasons all these things occure, its greed plain and simple.


    btw, do you play for team dynast? or did you just like the name?
    [*img]http://www.browndotdesign.com/Xodus/AO/YeahThatsMe.jpg[/img]
    Image too large- Tato

    Comment

    • WARPED1
      I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
      • Nov 2001
      • 7458

      #3
      Lasoya=cheating bastard.
      [Something Cool is Here]

      Comment

      • ubooze
        Good to the last drop...
        • Nov 2001
        • 370

        #4
        Wow, I never knew HE would act so improperly.

        I had a great amount of respect for Lasoya, but after this event, it has dropped.

        He is very highly sponsored, but no company has taken a look at THIS situation I believe.

        I think that he would and should be baned for a long while so that he can learn the functions on his markewr and get a fell for the trigger.
        I wish I wasn't broke....

        Comment

        • ntn4502
          Environmental Geologist
          • Aug 2002
          • 1637

          #5
          yet another higher-up in paintball to tarnish the sport that we play

          Drink Wine

          Comment

          • jwren00
            Registered User
            • Aug 2002
            • 302

            #6
            i used to go to warped sportz in denver a long time ago to get my tank filled, he ran that shop, he was not a very nice guy back then either. Now he works for rocky mountain paintball and i've played with him at their field a few times, he is not a fair player to say the least...
            Last edited by jwren00; 03-13-2003, 12:37 AM.

            Comment

            • PsychoBaller
              Gone are my SFL days...
              • Nov 2000
              • 1952

              #7
              They shoulda....

              shave the guys head to see how many welts could be detected... but even so.... that is inexcusable behavior..... 12 shots to the head.... jesus.......

              High End players should know better than that. I'm happy with the decision to ban him.

              ~da baller

              Comment

              • TheBigRaguPB4L
                Proud Loser!
                • May 2001
                • 1639

                #8
                Re: They shoulda....

                Originally posted by PsychoBaller


                High End players should know better than that. I'm happy with the decision to ban him.

                ~da baller

                Yeah cause he won't be playing in a few weeks. Seems to me that the higher up "pro's" do/say whatever they want with no reprecussions. Big deal, they banned him. Not like he can't go somewhere else and do whatever he pleases. There are plenty of other leagues to play. For once i would love to see a one of the company's sponsering them take some action against to quell such childish occurances. Not that it'll happen anytime soon.
                http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...light=feedback

                My girlfriend said that if i bought another paintball gun, she'd leave me........ I sure am going to miss her.

                Comment

                • Cryer
                  Paintball is over.
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 4105

                  #9
                  Re: Re: They shoulda....

                  Originally posted by TheBigRaguPB4L
                  For once i would love to see a one of the company's sponsering them take some action against to quell such childish occurances. Not that it'll happen anytime soon.
                  JT vs. Jeremy Salm after the 2k2 World Cup debacle...
                  (he can never play for another team sponsored by any BrassEagle company like JT or Viewloader)

                  But I do agree with you whole-heartedly. A 'rogue' player's entire sponsorship should be pulled (if not indefinately, at least until he/she makes a visible effort to reform).

                  Team Sandbaggers.
                  -We own j00 all.-

                  Comment

                  • shadow462
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 315

                    #10
                    This, my friends, is one of the reasons paintball is not TV ready. As far as his ban from the PanAm, good riddance. Hopefully other tourny producers will follow suit. It is, however, very good to see people banding together AGAINST his behavior, rather than blindly forgiving it (as is the case with many other sports celebrities). I'm glad people recognize how thin the ice under our sport really is. Unfortunately this was perpetrated by one of the most prevalent paintball players in the world, and will more than likely be a very big news story, at least in our circle of the world. Yet another shadow cast, hopefully we can shine beyond it. Mr. Lasoya, shame on you. May you never play paintball again.

                    Another discussion this will likely recussitate is the oft forgotten speed limit. Would Lasoya have gotten off 12 shots if his gun were capped at a more reasonable level? If it were capped at 13 (the most frequently used number for a proposed cap) those 12 shots would have taken at least a full second. In paintball time, that's quite a stretch, and it's likely all 12 of them wouldn't have happened. Would this have solved the problem of Lasoya overshooting? No. But would it hae increased the safety level and reduced the damage inflicted? Yes. It's a pro and con discussion that's tainted by the industry's influence over tournament producers. But I digress...

                    Another dark day for paintball is upon us. It is up to every one of us to make it right, and to personally vow to never do anything this awfully reckless. And keep in mind, friends: whether you're laying into a guy's head with 12 point blank shots, picking off opponents from the sidelines, or "just wiping"... they're all the same rules, and they all hurt the sport. We must play with honor if we want paintball to be more than a 20 year flash in the pan, because there are plenty of people who would be glad to ban the sport for any reason they can dig up. Let's not give them any help.

                    "To tell others that / it is a rumor / will not do. / When your own heart asks / how will you respond? " ~ ancient japanese poem


                    PBCity: GREAT new forum! F PBN

                    ULE Emag

                    Comment

                    • Tyger
                      video /k radio star
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 1210

                      #11
                      Re: Re: Re: They shoulda....

                      Originally posted by Cryer
                      JT vs. Jeremy Salm after the 2k2 World Cup debacle...
                      (he can never play for another team sponsored by any BrassEagle company like JT or Viewloader)
                      Enter the cynic.

                      Like that'll happen. I guarantee that he'll be playing for a JT team in a year or two. Hell, he was AT the NPPL Huntington Beach as a COACH.

                      I'm a cynic, until the players get roped in, thye'll do what they want, when they want, becasue they can. It's that simple.

                      My solution is to not give him money, or tell his sponsors that I won't give them my money by buying the products he uses. If enough people do this, you'll be amazed how fast they clean up...

                      -Tyger


                      "Oh, you're wearing a tail and ears, you're a freak."
                      "No social change has ever come about without freaks. Einstein was a freak. Ben Franklin was a freak. Martin Luther King was a freak. ...be proud to be included in those ranks."
                      -2, The Ranting Gryphon

                      Comment

                      • Mighty Mike
                        Too Fast Too Furious
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 661

                        #12
                        I don't know who Chris Lasoya is or which team he plays for but shame on his team, sponsors, and league for letting this punk continue to play paintball professionally. It makes me so furious reading the vicious actions of Chris Lasoya. I hope the kid who was injured is taking legal actions against him. I pray one day Mr. Lasoya and I cross paths so I can tell him how much disrespect I have for him.

                        Comment

                        • TheJester
                          Registered User
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 753

                          #13
                          man, that's gotta hurt, 6 to the body from a normal range kinda hurts where you just kinda walk off the feild and sit down and re-gain your strength. 12 to the head at point blank!!!! damn, no wonder the guy suffered a concusion
                          AIM- TheJester493 IM me some time

                          take a look at my minimag ....
                          http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...threadid=64837

                          Comment

                          • manike
                            INCEPTIONDESIGNS.COM

                            • Jan 2001
                            • 3820

                            #14
                            Rumours and embellishments make me sick. Just because something gets printed all of a sudden it's fact?

                            Who are you guys to slate Chris just on the basis of one other person's views? Maybe you should get both sides of the story before preaching about it. Next time I see Chris I'll get his side. Notice how the person writing that piece is affiliated with the guy that got shot. So it's not exactly an unbiased representative giving a report now is it?

                            When this story first broke it was 5 hits, and the guy was ok but felt concussed (I do after just one head hit!) and so went to get checked. Chris was apparently immediately sorry and trying to help the guy.

                            Now I agree 5 hits is way too much, and I am by no means condoning that, but there may be other circumstances and things we don't know, and Chris is the fastest person on the trigger that I have EVER seen. In the heat of a game, with the adrenalin flowing and with a fast finger I've seen lots of people pull 5-6 shots in a bunkering move, especially if the person they are shooting at shoots back or swings to fire.

                            I don't know the facts for sure, but nor do you guys. You just seem to be on a witch hunt

                            Chris is a friend of mine, he can get het up on the field and plays on the edge, but he is also a nice guy who is a phenomenal ambassador for the sport for kids and people that take the time to want to talk to him (and don't just hate him based upon what they have read or 'heard' . When you've seen him give signatures and equipment to young kids, and take the time to talk to old couples explaining what paintball is about and what it means to be a paintballer, you will appreciate the whole person that is Chris Lasoya.

                            He gives a huge amount back. Yes he screws up now and then, but I for one DO NOT think paintball would be a better place without him.
                            Inception Designs - My new company where Innovation is the Inspiration

                            Comment

                            • shartley
                              paintball player
                              • Mar 2001
                              • 9169

                              #15
                              Originally posted by manike
                              Rumours and embellishments make me sick. Just because something gets printed all of a sudden it's fact?

                              Who are you guys to slate Chris just on the basis of one other person's views? Maybe you should get both sides of the story before preaching about it. Next time I see Chris I'll get his side. Notice how the person writing that piece is affiliated with the guy that got shot. So it's not exactly an unbiased representative giving a report now is it?

                              When this story first broke it was 5 hits, and the guy was ok but felt concussed (I do after just one head hit!) and so went to get checked. Chris was apparently immediately sorry and trying to help the guy.

                              Now I agree 5 hits is way too much, and I am by no means condoning that, but there may be other circumstances and things we don't know, and Chris is the fastest person on the trigger that I have EVER seen. In the heat of a game, with the adrenalin flowing and with a fast finger I've seen lots of people pull 5-6 shots in a bunkering move, especially if the person they are shooting at shoots back or swings to fire.

                              I don't know the facts for sure, but nor do you guys. You just seem to be on a witch hunt

                              Chris is a friend of mine, he can get het up on the field and plays on the edge, but he is also a nice guy who is a phenomenal ambassador for the sport for kids and people that take the time to want to talk to him (and don't just hate him based upon what they have read or 'heard' . When you've seen him give signatures and equipment to young kids, and take the time to talk to old couples explaining what paintball is about and what it means to be a paintballer, you will appreciate the whole person that is Chris Lasoya.

                              He gives a huge amount back. Yes he screws up now and then, but I for one DO NOT think paintball would be a better place without him.
                              Last edited by shartley; 03-13-2003, 06:23 AM.

                              www.ShartleyCustoms.com
                              Custom Paintball Products and Accessories
                              CLICK HERE to Check out our PDU SERIES GEAR!


                              its more like a paper cut that has primadonna's yelling murder... - Glickman

                              Comment

                              Working...