Why no Remote Compressed Air Tanks

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  • WarBUCKs

    #1

    Why no Remote Compressed Air Tanks

    Ok, so I was wondering. Why are there no Remote Compressed Air Tanks? Does it have to do with pressure in a long hose? I just don't know.

    If anyone can enlighten me it would be great!

    I am working on lightening my gun and if I could get the 3 pound air tank off the gun that would fix all my problems.

    Thanks in advance!
  • KayleAGD
    Master tech.
    • Nov 2000
    • 582

    #2
    Because all of the cool pro players use an on-gun system....

    Actually many players used remote systems when the compressed bottles came out . The hose should be stainless braided to handle the possible overpressure in case of a reg failure.
    "It's my buddies gun"
    "I just bought it"
    "It came that way"
    "I borrowed it "
    I HAVE HEARD THEM ALL, SO BE ORIGINAL !!!

    My gun says I'm holding it back from doing great things ...

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    • Dayspring
      aka- The Day Wang

      • May 2001
      • 9664

      #3
      Just remember that in speedball, all hits count. Therefore, if I see that hose swinging around outside of your bunker, I'm going to nail the sucker. And you'll be out.

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      • Strider
        Thunder Chicken
        • Mar 2002
        • 1562

        #4
        Re: Why no Remote Compressed Air Tanks

        It's mostly a ballance/stability issue. But if you had a nice shoulder stock/remote line setup, it would work nice.

        I used to run Steel braided remote. Worked fine.

        As for getting hit on the line, mine at least never stuck out anymroe than my body...

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        • Hexis
          Green Mag Freak
          • Sep 2001
          • 2427

          #5
          I used a remote 114ci 3000psi setup for a long time. I decided to try an 68ci 4500 psi setup last year (took me a while to hop on the 4500psi bus ).

          I love the result. The tank is a perfect stock, which gives me a much more stable gun. It's also easier to deal with no hose. My harness is one part, and my gun is another. They are not connected, and that makes life a lot easier. I love the result.

          The downside it that it's a lot heavier. But that's the point of ULE, right?

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          • Evil Bob
            Evil Overlord
            • Jul 2001
            • 1217

            #6
            My 13 year old son uses a remote line on his XMag to save weight on the marker itself (he's a tiny guy, everyone else in his class is a foot taller then he is). He loves it.

            -Evil Bob

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            • dre1919
              www.andrewsloan.com
              • May 2002
              • 1548

              #7
              I used to run a remote for a short time before I went to compressed. I would imagine I would have the same problems with my compressed tank that I did with my Co2 one...it was a big hassle having it on my back in a pack. Since I play front I run a lot, and having my tank bounce up and down on my back was not real cool. Plus, I didn't like the idea of unhooking myself everytime I wanted to set my gun down.

              That having been said, if you like you're setup that way then I say go for it.
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              • JT2002
                Registered User
                • Jun 2002
                • 1863

                #8
                Originally posted by Evil Bob
                My 13 year old son uses a remote line on his XMag to save weight on the marker itself (he's a tiny guy, everyone else in his class is a foot taller then he is). He loves it.

                -Evil Bob
                grrrrr! sons younger than me and he already has my dream gun well for now ill have to pwn him with my timmy!

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                • WARPED1
                  I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 7458

                  #9
                  I used to run remote. Just make sure the remote hose is rated to handle the psi of your tank.
                  [Something Cool is Here]

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                  • Hexis
                    Green Mag Freak
                    • Sep 2001
                    • 2427

                    #10
                    Originally posted by WARPED1
                    I used to run remote. Just make sure the remote hose is rated to handle the psi of your tank.
                    Why? All HPA tanks have a regulator. You only have to worry about the output pressure, plus some extra for saftey. You don't have to worry about the full tank pressure. That's what bust discs are for on the output regulator.

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                    • WARPED1
                      I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                      • Nov 2001
                      • 7458

                      #11
                      It's like the microline, it's only able to handle small amounts.
                      The smaller hoses have been known to baloon up and pop.
                      [Something Cool is Here]

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                      • Hexis
                        Green Mag Freak
                        • Sep 2001
                        • 2427

                        #12
                        Which PSI are you talking about? The Output pressure, or the Tank Pressure? You need to be specific when you say psi.

                        If you run a remote I would suggest braded line. I have found it to be easier to deal with than coiled lines.

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                        • mrbrutal
                          Gun Whore Wannabe
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 367

                          #13
                          Its a matter of preference. I used to run remote when I first switched over from co2. I primarily used the remote as an expansion chamber. Occasionally, I had the hose snag when I played woodsball. After a while, I went on gun. You get used to the weight after some time. Plus, it felt more freer and you can easily switch hands if you need to shoot on the other side
                          Markers: LX (CF Hyperframe Mag/ PFHR RT Pro)
                          Barrels: Kaner/Boomstick/All American
                          Tank: Crossfire 68ci 3k
                          Mask: JT/Scott
                          Loaders: Pre BE Rev/X-board Rev/ Reloader

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                          • Nobody077
                            Yes Im still alive
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 559

                            #14
                            What about the Air America Raptor and Raptor Rex? They are sold as Remote tanks. I think the main reason that remote CA isint used more is as people move away from "woods" play into speedball play the remote line seem to slow most people down, and without the need to keep liquid out of the gun with CA, people dont need the remote inymore.
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                            • cledford
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2001
                              • 1386

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Dayspring
                              Just remember that in speedball, all hits count. Therefore, if I see that hose swinging around outside of your bunker, I'm going to nail the sucker. And you'll be out.
                              I don't buy this arguement. A "slinky" style hose stays VERY tight (read next to the body) and would be less likely then a typical loader pack to get hit.

                              For the agruement regarding the "pack is always connected to gun" you can use a pro-connect and easily disconnect anytime you want.

                              For the arguement about the bottle bouncing up and down - the newer packs eliminate this as a problem. All packs now use ample amount of velcro and elastic to keep it all tight and secure.

                              The only agruement that flys is that it is harder to switch hands with the gun. Now if you are running a warp this is a non-issue also...

                              It's funny that everyone seems to want a lighter gun - but doesn't seem to mind throwing an extra 4-5 pounds on theirs. I know it drives Tom up the wall - I've heard him mention on a number of occasions.

                              BTW, I run on gun also Although I am considering switching back due to budget. Where I play you have to pay for fills - and a 114 fill costs the same as the 68 I run on gun. Since I get less shots off a fill with the 'mag to begin with (due to ~800psi input requirement) I'm thinking cheap and seriously considering going back.

                              On other thing - I think one of the big issues - that of balance is now also addressed with the warp. When you throw a loaded HALO on a marker, it is a lot easier to keep it upright with a 4lb counter weight.

                              -Calvin
                              From a poster at PB Nation:

                              ""Jim, back to your cave. Bob Long is on the batphone..."

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