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  • Jack & Coke
    TUNAMAX No. 1
    • Jul 2002
    • 2644

    #91
    Too bad Centerflag's Hyperframe is ONLY capable of 5-10 BPS and can damage the bolt.







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    • hitech
      Not a shedder of vortices
      • Nov 2001
      • 4775

      #92
      Originally posted by Jack & Coke
      Too bad Centerflag's Hyperframe is ONLY capable of 5-10 BPS and can damage the bolt.
      The new board is capped at 20 bps (the old one was capped at 13bps). If you know how to install them they won't damage the bolt. The new board also allows you to set the solenoid dwell (short dwell time can cause bolt/sear wear).

      I put my Hyperframe on my brothers mini and fired it at 15bps fullauto. One of these days were going to throw a halo on it and see how high we can it to go.


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      • Jack & Coke
        TUNAMAX No. 1
        • Jul 2002
        • 2644

        #93
        That would be awesome if you could make a video of the Hyperframe hitting 15-20!

        Back to Mechanical Trigger discussion...

        Do you think, with this new AGD mod (1/3 the pressure to pull the trigger), we'll be able to "walk" our fingers?

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        • hitech
          Not a shedder of vortices
          • Nov 2001
          • 4775

          #94
          Yeah, 15bps fullauto is impressive. I experenced "barrel climb". It's easy enough to control, but not something you expect from a paintball marker! Hopefully I can get the video done.

          As for walking the trigger, I have no idea. I can't do it now. However, I'd bet that Covadsucks could. The trigger pull on a stock hyperframe is fairly heavy and he had no problem walking mine! Actually, walking is not very descriptive. It's more like running!


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          • Jack & Coke
            TUNAMAX No. 1
            • Jul 2002
            • 2644

            #95
            Originally posted by hitech
            Yeah, 15bps fullauto is impressive. I experenced "barrel climb". It's easy enough to control, but not something you expect from a paintball marker! Hopefully I can get the video done.

            As for walking the trigger, I have no idea. I can't do it now. However, I'd bet that Covadsucks could. The trigger pull on a stock hyperframe is fairly heavy and he had no problem walking mine! Actually, walking is not very descriptive. It's more like running!
            I checked out the centerflag site... I guess they're only selling the old board (5-10 max bps). Where did you get this "new" board?

            Also, regarding the "finger walking", I talking about "walking" the trigger on Tom's new mechanical invention that this thread is about.

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            • hitech
              Not a shedder of vortices
              • Nov 2001
              • 4775

              #96
              Originally posted by Jack & Coke
              I checked out the centerflag site... I guess they're only selling the old board (5-10 max bps). Where did you get this "new" board?
              They don't seem to update their web site. They called me in responce to a note I sent them with a returned part. You have to call them to get the new board. It's the same board they are using for their auto cocker frame.

              Originally posted by Jack & Coke
              Also, regarding the "finger walking", I talking about "walking" the trigger on Tom's new mechanical invention that this thread is about.
              Yeah. I can't walk on ANY trigger. Hopwever, I'll bet the pull isn't much harder than the stock hyperframe. Covadsucks could walk that trigger. However, he can probably walk any trigger.

              Basically, I have no idea.


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              • Jerhew
                Riverside Regiment
                • Jul 2002
                • 677

                #97
                alright that'd be awesome to be able to walk a mech trigger
                the only time i ever seen someone walking a trigger was on a matrix
                i imagine someone could do it on a hinge cocker but ive never seen it

                alright so i imagine it's still months away from production
                but im getting excited about this ultralight trigger again
                i can't wait
                i loved my retromag last weekend at CCQXV...so i can't even imagine how sweet it'll be with 1/3 the pull...
                TheDuelist "The problem is that Tom has developed the VW Beetle of the paintball industry. It's almost too good to change and far too reliable."

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                • AGD
                  The man from AGD

                  • Oct 2000
                  • 5916

                  #98
                  Guys,

                  This trigger is NOT light enough to walk or we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

                  Sorry,

                  AGD
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                  • xadamx
                    SplatBrothers Paintball
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 715

                    #99
                    Originally posted by AGD
                    Guys,

                    This trigger is NOT light enough to walk or we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

                    Sorry,

                    AGD
                    Thats ok Tom! Im sure it is still going to be kick read end! maybe im really old school but i shoot like this: place two fingers on the trigger and pull. haha i guess im not up with the current trigger shooting meathods oh well

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                    • cdawg
                      not your average dawg
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 289

                      #100
                      Tom, please don't get discouraged.

                      Here is what I can do as far as "walking" goes on my mag right now. I turned down the output pressure so I won't be accused of sweet spotting. Towards the end of the clip I fire slowly to demonstrate this. My point is that you CAN walk a mechanical mag. If the necessary force to pull the trigger were even halved, think of the possibilities.

                      Right click, "Save Target As"

                      Video of my attempt to Walk
                      Respect that.

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                      • J Murder

                        #101
                        im confused, he says it will fit all mags and be reactive, but does this mean that standard valve mags with this mod will be reactive? That would be sweet!

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                        • cdawg
                          not your average dawg
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 289

                          #102
                          Tom, Please tell me if you watch the video.
                          Respect that.

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                          • Jerhew
                            Riverside Regiment
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 677

                            #103
                            Originally posted by cdawg
                            Tom, please don't get discouraged.

                            Here is what I can do as far as "walking" goes on my mag right now. I turned down the output pressure so I won't be accused of sweet spotting. Towards the end of the clip I fire slowly to demonstrate this. My point is that you CAN walk a mechanical mag. If the necessary force to pull the trigger were even halved, think of the possibilities.

                            Right click, "Save Target As"

                            Video of my attempt to Walk
                            that trigger seems rather short compared to my intelli...
                            do you have some sort of trigger stop or something?
                            TheDuelist "The problem is that Tom has developed the VW Beetle of the paintball industry. It's almost too good to change and far too reliable."

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                            • MantisMag
                              Dim Sum
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 1895

                              #104
                              Originally posted by AGD
                              This trigger is NOT light enough to walk or we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
                              i can walk a level 7 with a benchie. even though the pull is so long that it's still not that fast doing that. would the pull be heavier than that when installed on a dye frame and retro?

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                              • Jack & Coke
                                TUNAMAX No. 1
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 2644

                                #105
                                cdawg,

                                cool clip!

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