Super Light Mechanical Trigger Update

[bojo-master]

if it can raise my rof by 2 or 3 bps i might not have to bust the bank gor a x-mag.

[ddinwdc]

My suggestions are operating

on the assumption that the stainless steel bodies will eventually be phased out, allowing for the ULE bodies to be standard on all mags. In fact, I would venture to guess that the classic would eventually be discontinued, as it clearly does not (and can not) compete in today's low-end market. Then again, if you made the ULE standard on the classic... As for the eye's position, the ULE body comes with one detent; the other side of the body is free for drilling.

[QUINCYMASSGUY]

obselete

The standard Mag will be almost completely obselete in 6-12 months I say. All these great improvements will become standard once initial demands are met and enough are produced to build Mags from scratch using these parts instead of the old ones. Besides the rail, my Mag has gone from a stock Minimag to the ULE/Intelliframed monster it is now. The lighter trigger will be the final amendment to the stereotype people have of Mags and if the new lighter pull allows for an affordable LED grip (and I said IF so don't flame me for raising hopes or crap like that) then the Mag will have been completely reborn. First time in a while I saw ForceOfNature.com and Paintball.com both have articles about a new AGD product, specifically the ULE bodies, although these articles were clearly written and provided by the same person, most likely who works for AGD.

The older Mags will be around, but more for nostalgia or those people who can't afford the new stuff. It'll be a great opportunity for the people who want a high quality gun at a great price, because the old bodies and such are selling cheap right now.

Way to go AGD, looking good and this trigger pull issue is the last big step you need to revolutionize the mechanical paintball gun market. Kingman, Tippman, and WGP have got to be getting nervous about how good this thing might be.

[Dayspring]

I agree with that thinking. HOWEVER, Tom has to consider the huge amount of people already out there. When Eclipse came out with the Eblade, they made it so EVERY cocker (for the most part) can take advantage of it. Tom has been REALLY good about making all his new products backward compatible. Doing something like this is great for the new owners. but it leaves the old owners in a lurch. It would require them to buy a new body as well as the grip. That doesn't sound quite fair to those people who have a classic they've been upgrading as they went along.

This is the same problem that is happening with the classic RT owners. Tom made a design change for that model. It's radically different enough that none of the current AGD upgrades with the exception of the level 10 and a specially modified I-Frame work.

It needs to work on EVERY mag.

[Jerhew]

Re: My suggestions are operating

Originally posted by ddinwdc
on the assumption that the stainless steel bodies will eventually be phased out, allowing for the ULE bodies to be standard on all mags. In fact, I would venture to guess that the classic would eventually be discontinued, as it clearly does not (and can not) compete in today's low-end market.

im not sure i'd count out the classic valve yet....
it might come standard with ule body, the new trigger and maybe even level 10 in the future but i don't see them just dropping it completely anytime soon
and i think with lx and the new trigger plus the stylish ule body(or even an xmag style body eventually)
i can see it being an excellent lower end gun

[ZyperioN]

and all this talk about on/off pin lengths has to do with the new magnetic trigger frame how?

[Jerhew]

are we the topic nazi?
it does have to do with the topic of trigger jobs
and btw who said the new trigger has anything to do with magnets?

[Hucklbry]

Tom,
I think we all would like a lighter trigger no matter how much lighter it is. 1/3 the pull, wow. Good job. Keep us informed of when, and how much. Thanks

[ZyperioN]

well jerhew why dont u read tom's original post?

It is approxamately equivalent to three magnets in the emag trigger.

And no Jerhew this thread has nothing to do with "trigger jobs" because the topic is a new frame from AGD, not a new "trigger job"

[afrankart]

Who said it was a new trigger frame? I gathered that it was a parts kit for intelliframes.

[ZyperioN]

i, along with many others thought it was a whole new frame. maybe tom could shed some light on the issue?

[Jerhew]

well you're wrong
what it amounts to is a trigger job
call it what you will
but the idea of a softer trigger is generally attributed to the phrase "trigger job"
and that led to dicussions of other ways to do it
cdawg i believe it was who posted a mpg of him walking a mech trigger...
that let to questions of how...etc...
now if you honestly believe that we need to start a new thread to talk about it...
you're just out of line pal

why don't YOU read Tom's posts again:
"The parts are small and fragile so we have to figure out a way to make it idiot proof. There is a 99% chance this mod will retrofit to every gun we ever made. Its a two minute parts swap."

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It is approxamately equivalent to three magnets in the emag trigger.
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um do you know what the word equivalent means?
it doenst mean that it uses magnets...it just feels about the same as 3 magnets

[reefer madness]

all i care is that it has the full reactive trigger effect.

[Fastkid]

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[MantisMag]

no more sticky?