The AGD waiting game...

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  • MinimagRockin'
    Registered User
    • Oct 2000
    • 471

    #1

    The AGD waiting game...

    Recently I've noticed alot of people concerned with the fact that AGD is always out of the new good stuff, and why don't they make more, etc. I haven't seen anyone from AGD attempt to answer this. I would really like to know if there is a good reason why. It seems to me that the time is right for a company expansion so that manufacturing can be increased. I think I speak for alot of AO when I say what's the deal AGD?
  • Lone Wolf2
    "Lone WANG 2"
    • Aug 2002
    • 930

    #2
    Too much demand not enough supply i guess

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    • Lopy-slopy

      #3
      They do it because if peolpe are waiting to buy something for like 2 months and then they finaly release a "small amount" of them they are gauranteed to sell out of them. Thus elimenating excess unsold stock. This works great for them but it's a pain in the #$% for us. There are so many loyal customers. Anything they release will sell like mad so they may as well make enough for everyone.

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      • ChucktheMAGician
        Back at it
        • Oct 2002
        • 1855

        #4
        I think they are just telling us to much to quick! Preselling and getting the word out is great but everyone is jumping all over the new items before they get a good supply built up. I like the fact that Tom uses AO to get ideas on how to design things and make them better, y-grip for example. What I don't like is people not being patient enough to wait til things are done right. If I were Tom I would stop telling about things I'm planning and working on until they are about done so I wouldn't have to read about the complaints! I'm sure they are getting things ready as fast as they can, we all just need to be patient and stop whining, myself included, when things don't come out when, or as fast as promised. I'm sure it's more complex to run AGD than most of us realize. And if you're reading this Tom, please hurry w/ the y-frame!
        Feedback from: AO,PBN

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        • Blennidae
          an epileptic hummingbird
          • Nov 2001
          • 1920

          #5
          I'd be curious to know how much of the newly released items get sold to non-AO members. We are all like piranhas waiting for a capybara to fall into the river (thank you Marlin Perkins).

          With the exception of whatever might make it to trade shows/big tournys, I think we snap up a lot of it.

          Please excuse the derailment...

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          • ChucktheMAGician
            Back at it
            • Oct 2002
            • 1855

            #6
            Originally posted by Blennidae
            We are all like piranhas waiting for a capybara to fall into the river (thank you Marlin Perkins).
            Good analogy!
            Feedback from: AO,PBN

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            • MinimagRockin'
              Registered User
              • Oct 2000
              • 471

              #7
              Lopy-slopy: I don't buy that theory, AGD knows that hundereds of people are waiting for some of these products, such as the xmag. They would make way more money if they could keep up with demand.

              chuck: That is slightly true but this was happening before AGD started really telling us about projects way ahead of time. Our patience or impatience as the case may be is not what I'm really addressing here. If AGD wants to make us wait 5 years for an xmag then oh well we wait. What I'm wondering is why would they want to? They know alot of people want to buy these things. They can't even keep up with AO's demands much less distributing them out to pball stores. The question I'm asking is why the hell don't they hire more people, expand their manufactuing facilities, MAKE MORE MONEY? I know that you can't just snap your fingers and bam you have 20 new employees and a brand new warehouse but the initiative is in front of their faces...

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              • fire1811
                Firefighter
                • Nov 2002
                • 4930

                #8
                maybe AGD is worried more about true quality and craftsmanship then making money hand over fist.

                as tom stated himself if you dont want to wait then please
                buy another gun.
                "The Few Who Do Are The Envy Of The Many Who Only Stand And Watch"

                Alway Remember *343*

                Si vis pacem, para bellum

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                • Kevmaster
                  Owners Group Div: Director
                  • Oct 2001
                  • 5475

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MinimagRockin'
                  They would make way more money if they could keep up with demand.
                  they also stand to lose way more money if they dont go off really well. if you have 1000 premade xmags ready to sell and they dont sell well...youre screwed. if you have 10 ready to sell and allow a preorder list...then you're protecting yourself against losses

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                  • MinimagRockin'
                    Registered User
                    • Oct 2000
                    • 471

                    #10
                    FIRE: That's a good point and if that's the case then it's very respectable, but I don't see why they can't keep high craftsmanship standards and expand at the same time. Many big companies have exceptional quality and manage to meet demands, WDP comes to mind...

                    Also, AGD is a business afterall and the company would never have been started unless they thought they could grow and make money.

                    KEV: AGD knows for a fact that demand is far outweighing supply on the xmags (among other products) therefore they know for a fact that increasing supply will work.

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                    • WARPED1
                      I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                      • Nov 2001
                      • 7458

                      #11
                      Originally posted by fire1811
                      maybe AGD is worried more about true quality and craftsmanship then making money hand over fist.

                      as tom stated himself if you dont want to wait then please
                      buy another gun.
                      We don't want another damn gun! We want AGD products!
                      [Something Cool is Here]

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                      • fire1811
                        Firefighter
                        • Nov 2002
                        • 4930

                        #12
                        well then you have to wait dont ya

                        one thing your all forgetting...
                        does AGD WANT to become a big company?
                        "The Few Who Do Are The Envy Of The Many Who Only Stand And Watch"

                        Alway Remember *343*

                        Si vis pacem, para bellum

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                        • IWannaRiot979
                          ::TeamMint::
                          • Aug 2001
                          • 380

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Blennidae
                          I'd be curious to know how much of the newly released items get sold to non-AO members. We are all like piranhas waiting for a capybara to fall into the river (thank you Marlin Perkins).

                          With the exception of whatever might make it to trade shows/big tournys, I think we snap up a lot of it.

                          Please excuse the derailment...
                          Ding, Ding, Ding!

                          I think we just assume that AGD is behind schedule because we learn about all these products early/often. We knew about Xmags for 6+ months before I ever saw one in a paintball mag. I had an original superbolt before I read about it off of AO. Last weekend I saw someone I was playing with explaining what Level 10 WAS..

                          I strongly believe that the "AGD is not meeting demand" mentality is strictly because of AO. Sit and think to yourself: Do you think your average non-AO mag user feels they're missing out on a ULE body right now? knows what one is?

                          /rant

                          -Riot
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                          • MinimagRockin'
                            Registered User
                            • Oct 2000
                            • 471

                            #14
                            They may not want to become big (and I have no idea why they wouldn't) but they might think about expanding just a little bit to at least keep up with their loyal followers. Keeping up with the entire paintball world is one thing but when you can't even keep up with your website subscribers that's pretty bad.

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                            • MinimagRockin'
                              Registered User
                              • Oct 2000
                              • 471

                              #15
                              Originally posted by IWannaRiot979


                              Do you think your average non-AO mag user feels they're missing out on a ULE body right now? knows what one is?

                              /rant

                              -Riot
                              Your right but what if you could open up an APG and there was a full page ad for ule bodies so you go down to your local pball shop and and they actually have them in stock. Imagine how many of these things AGD would be selling.

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