Autocockers: Your Thoughts

[AFRaven]

Hey guys. I just want to know what you all think about Autocockers, it seems like there is some animosity between the 'mag guys and the 'cocker guys. Any reason? Are Autocockers "bad guns" to your standards?

[FalconGuy016]

No they arent "bad" guns to me, they are just entirely different.

[DiRTyBuNNy]

Re: Autocockers: Your Thoughts

Originally posted by AFRaven
Hey guys. I just want to know what you all think about Autocockers, it seems like there is some animosity between the 'mag guys and the 'cocker guys. Any reason? Are Autocockers "bad guns" to your standards?

I wouldn't categorize it as animosity...more like ignorance...

[AFRaven]

So I gather that the Autococker users are the ignorant ones? Why is that so? Note: I am not taking sides here, just trying to figure things out.

[DiRTyBuNNy]

I think we both suffer from ignorance of varying degrees. Cockers don't have great accuracy or range from being closed bolt..they can tell you that all day long..but it just doesn't..unless of course you don't believe in the laws of physics...and well..Mag shooters..we have our own ignorances..but I'm not going to call a spade a spade or anything..if you've been here long enough you'll see it flare up from time to time..

[AFRaven]

I see. Thanks for clarifying. The main point of this was that I was out paintballing today, and I am in the market for a new gun. I fired and Autococker, and damn, it was nice. The range was standard, accuracy was amazing (but no better or worse than my friends mag). I also fired a mag, and I like both of them. I am just trying to figure out which gun to upgrade to, seeing that I want to go non-electro. I am torn between a Cocker and a RT Mag.

[DroopyTheBacker]

Well I don't have a beef against cocker shooters, and yeah I think there is some ignorance (I actually was a cocker shooter till I found an emag ) But if there is one thing wrong with the cocker I think it would be the design from the start. It's based off a pump gun. It wasn't meant to be a semi. It wasn't meant to cock by itself and it wasn't meant to shoot 11 bps, much less all the crazy crap these eblades are doing. If you wanna make a semi, make a semi. Don't make a pump into a semi.

My 2 cents.

[NJPaint]

After owning both, all I can say is that its a personal preference, mags don't break, cockers require lots of matenance, if thats your thing then hey go ahead, they are good guns.

[Quiet]

I loved my mag, and I'm loving my 2k3 cocker. You'll hear a lot of crap as to why one is better than the other, mostly it's just BS. For a while Mags and Cockers were the two markers to have, so they were always compared to one another. Since everybody likes to believe that they have the best and nobody could come up with any real reasons why one was better than the other they simply made them up. That happens in two ways by boosting theirs or putting the others down. Since both camps spent some time putting each other down there's a bit of sillyness going around. Most of us are intelligent enough to realise what it is and have fun with it, but there are always a few idiots (on both sides of course).

My .02
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[minimag187]

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[FutureMagOwner]

the problem with me and cockers is im the only one with a brain at my field so im always fixing them and they are so annoying

[�.C.]

It's all preference, neither are bad. But face it, the majority of new people/ignorant people believe mags suck. I remember I didn't think too high of mags either when I first started. They weren't as pretty and the price was cheaper. So I used common sense and figured that the more $$ means the better the gun. Then down the road I realized you needed to put stuff on the mag and after that the price sorta evens out. Mags in general are cheaper but less flashy, cockers are in general mroe expensive but more flashy. That's what I figured.

[ugabiged88]

I have a autococker and an automag and I like both. They each have their own strengths and weaknesses, and I wouldn't say that one was better than the other.

What DroopyTheBacker said was just wrong though. There is nothing wrong with the autococker coming from a pump gun. He has probably never even shot an autococker.

[Catch22]

There is a trick to autocockers. Get them working right once and then leave it that way. Don't mess with anything and they'll last forever pretty much. Automags well.. that part comes already done.

[FeelTheRT]

Originally posted by NJPaint
cockers require lots of matenance

No they dont. They require as much maintence as a Mag. You drop in a few drops of oil in the gas line before airing it up and dry fire a few times. They don't require anything from you but your love, as any of your markers should. If you really love it enough, you will be interested in fine tuning it. You can tune it so that it has amazing efficiency (able to get 1900 shots out of a 68ci tank), or tune it to cycle amazingly fast (real nice if you have an electro frame on there), or you can mod it to have a crazy lite and short pull, or have a snappier pull, and the list goes on. Last time i checked, Mags are still pretty much stuck on around 1000 shots from a 68ci tank, and therer isn't anything you can do at all to the trigger pull. By all meens, Mags are great guns but if you are into modifying things and customizing, a Cocker would be a more reasonable choice.