Important Announcement on the ULE Trigger

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  • TheJester
    Registered User
    • Sep 2002
    • 753

    #46
    ok, the holes/o-rings seem to be a problem. forgive me if i'm being stupid, but i just took apart my x-valve, and there is no step, or at least no visble step for the 2 orings. there's 1 big 1, and 1 smaller 1 that fits in the big 1. now it's been a while (December) since i've even seen an classic valve, none the less the o-rings for the on/off assembly. but i guess my ? for you guys who want to get it re-drilled, if it's already the big oring, why not just replace it w/ the 2 o-ring style? and i almost think it might be that simple, because it's the teflon o-ring that's down there, so why not just get an RT-Pro parts kit, or just get the on/off o-rings from an RT-Pro, replace all your orings on your on/off, and only run compressed air (so you won't freeze them, that's why the classic has the teflon o-rings, and part of why the RT valves say no co2, is they have no teflon orings). i think that would be at least worth looking into.
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    • QUINCYMASSGUY
      Registered User
      • Dec 2002
      • 914

      #47
      Trigger

      If you have an old gun or mom won't buy this trigger for you or an xvalve to use this trigger with.... stop the complaining PLEASE! First off, you know Tom did all he can to make this work for everyone, but if it won't work on non-Retro mags it's not from a lack of effort on his part. It was a lucky break that he figured out how to use this trigger but he was unable to get around the fact that it will require the retro effect. It's a BONUS he was able to make this work for those of us with the newer gear, not a penalty for those who don't. So don't tell him off for coming up with this!

      ALSO, Paintball is an expensive game, so don't complain because you can't afford this or Mom and Dad won't buy it for you. Save the money, use your Mag which is still a great gun without the XValve and Trigger (hopefully you got the Lvl 10 at least) and it'll still be a great gun on the field. Use the money to actually play! Mom and Dad aren't buying my gear or paying for my field and paint costs, I earn it and spend it because I love the game. I made sacrifices to buy my Minimag and Steel Crossfire tank used for $300 (after only my first time playing too!) because I love the game. I made sacrifices to afford the XValve and Intelliframe a few months later but I'm happy I did. And I didn't NEED a ULE body but willing to spend the money because I wanted to. If you really want something, put up or shut up because either you don't really want to buy it or you aren't working and mom and dad pays for everything. If that's the case, definitely be quiet or get a job and earn your gear. But don't blame AGD for it! You get what you pay for with AGD, it's just not for everyone.
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      • joey d
        yes, I run akaowners.org
        • Apr 2003
        • 2030

        #48
        tom, or anyone who knows.

        is there an official cost on this part yet? what should I expect to pay for this badass mod?
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        • Dayspring
          aka- The Day Wang

          • May 2001
          • 9664

          #49
          ~$100

          As for the whole "let's just swap orings in" comment. You can't do it. You have to redrill that part of the valve. The orings won't fit in correctly if you don't. And Tom already said that it won't work with classic valves. The ULT requires that retro kick back to work. Get over it and move on.

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          • AGD
            The man from AGD

            • Oct 2000
            • 5916

            #50
            You guys have to remember that for the 225 Xvalve you get:

            1. LvL 10
            2. ULE Trigger
            3. All aluminum valve
            4. Reactive trigger

            This is not bad considering how much the LvL 10 and ULE cost by themselves.

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            • cphilip
              Former Moderator

              • Jun 2026
              • 16216

              #51
              Heckuva Deal.

              And one that just keeps getting better if you ask me...


              AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

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              • Patron God of Pirates
                ~pgop1.0
                • Apr 2002
                • 1196

                #52
                I understand that it's not really anyones fault that the mod doesn't work for them, but those of us who have the older stainless RTP valves and have already purchased LV.10, it's not much of a deal at all.

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                • cphilip
                  Former Moderator

                  • Jun 2026
                  • 16216

                  #53
                  ...Oh I feel your pain there cause I am in the same boat. Just got my X Valve in my RTP myself...


                  AGD, where we are so good we can do it with only ONE tube!

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                  • Duke Henry
                    Team SYNDICATE
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 542

                    #54
                    Hrm, now I am in a pickle.

                    I think it is time for me to sell my A5, and my RTP and just buy myself a new Emag with all of this stuff sorted out already!

                    I guess all I will need is the ULE trigger upgrade, since I will already have everything else I need brand new.

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                    • dcmander
                      Sweet Shot
                      • Jun 2002
                      • 798

                      #55
                      Dangit Tom!!

                      You keep delaying me from buying my Xvalve!!! :) Now that it is going to come with the ULT, woldn't it make sense for me to wait to buy the xvalve until the ULT comes out and is included with the Xvalve??

                      Pretty damn sweet of you Tom. But this does mean that I will have to wait a few more months until the Xvalve comes out. I don't think its worth 100$ to get my Xvalve a few months earlier.

                      Did Tom ever say when they were shooting for to release this upgrade? I've heard people say IAO, and other things that are at the end of summer (July), but did Tom ever say these dates or are other people just guessing that?

                      Man a release date would help though.

                      So do you guys think it is smart to wait for the ULT if you haven't already bought an xvalve but was planning on it?
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                      • classicmagplayer
                        Registered User
                        • May 2003
                        • 98

                        #56
                        Originally posted by AGD
                        You guys have to remember that for the 225 Xvalve you get:

                        1. LvL 10
                        2. ULE Trigger
                        3. All aluminum valve
                        4. Reactive trigger

                        This is not bad considering how much the LvL 10 and ULE cost by themselves.

                        AGD
                        So the ULE trigger comes with the x valve? That just made my day.

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                        • Duke Henry
                          Team SYNDICATE
                          • Jun 2002
                          • 542

                          #57
                          Originally posted by dcmander
                          Did Tom ever say when they were shooting for to release this upgrade? I've heard people say IAO, and other things that are at the end of summer (July), but did Tom ever say these dates or are other people just guessing that?
                          Well, since the IAO is in July, I think both may be right.

                          Question for you Tom:

                          Will Emags come stock with the ULE trigger after its release? (and assuming testing goes well with Emags)
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                          • QUINCYMASSGUY
                            Registered User
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 914

                            #58
                            wow

                            Wow, the ULE trigger is going to be standard with XValves? That is seriously one hell of a deal. I'm very impressed. So now anyone besides those without an RT who can't use the Xvalve should not be complaining. I was amazed when the Xvalve came with the Lvl10 (if not a little annoyed because I bought the Lvl 10 two weeks before) but here you have plenty of notice and the option for a great setup for less then most of us got the individual components... so all those complaining about not having an XValve so you can't use the mod should just be quiet, save some money, and take advantage of this deal. Do the math 225 minus 80 for level 10, minus 100 for ULE trigger = $45 XValve. If you can't afford that, you should be renting. Great deal Tom, I am definitely amazed. Just as long as plenty of these triggers are available on their own and don't take an engineering degree to figure out how to install, I am buying one the minute they're available. Thanks!
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                            • joey d
                              yes, I run akaowners.org
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 2030

                              #59
                              wow $225 for an Xvalve WITH the ULE trigger.

                              I just picked up my Xvalve for that amount w/o ULE Trigger.

                              DAYSPRING - are you sure on that $100 price tag?

                              Tom, where would this ULE update leave those of us who already have an xvalve? still going to be a simple drop in change to the valve? (maybe I missed something along the way)
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                              • MantisMag
                                Dim Sum
                                • Dec 2001
                                • 1895

                                #60
                                well if the xvalve comes packaged with the ULE trigger that changes things a bit. i wasn't about to pay $225 plus another $100 just to get the lighter valve and trigger. but $225 for both i might be able to swing.

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