Important Announcement on the ULE Trigger

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  • logamus
    Registered Abuser
    • Dec 2002
    • 2346

    #76
    wow, this is great news. i was already waiting for red xvalves to come out, now my wait has become sweeter knowing that the ult is going to be in the package.


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    • Jerhew
      Riverside Regiment
      • Jul 2002
      • 677

      #77
      ok so can we have some confirmation on this?
      can we sent in our older retro valves to get drilled for 2 orings?
      is it as simple as that?
      i wouldn't mind spending a little extra...it's better than having to buy an x-valve considering i(and im not the only one) already have both an rt valve and level 10

      doesn't sound like a huge problem to me... but why didn't Tom mention it in the first place? (other than not wanting to get the service dept. overrun)
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      • dcmander
        Sweet Shot
        • Jun 2002
        • 798

        #78
        Judging from Tom's post and a hunch I have, I don't think AGD is going to put up with drilling all those RT valves. From his post, Tom makes it sound like the Xvalve is going to be a helluva deal with the ULT included, and so that implies to me that they won't be doing the drilling for customers.

        They would have a huge demand and it would take time for AGD, and I don't think they will do it. I don't think it would be worth it to them. But that's just me I would try to think of something else guys. :) Sorry do be the negative/realistic one :)
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        • RetroEclipseMan
          AO's Future Game Artist
          • Jun 2002
          • 1386

          #79
          I dunno, I wouldn't be suprised if Tom allowed the owners of the stainless retros to send there valves in to be drilled for a fee. I know if it was possible I would definately do it. It'd be a whole lot better than droppn' $225 into a new valve. Just tryn' to be optimistic here.
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          • MaxPowers

            #80
            Drilling

            FYI -
            I spoke with one of the guys in the tech dept. yesterday. I asked him about drilling the on-off out and he said that they weren't planning on doing them. Said it would cost too much money and take too much time.

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            • TheJester
              Registered User
              • Sep 2002
              • 753

              #81
              ok, about this drilling crap. for 1, i feel sorry for you guys, i really do. i think you should just get the x-valve when it all comes out, you can't get a better deal than that. also, if you recal, AGD doesn't do any inhouse work, so they would have to send all the valves out to be re-drilled. but if you guys are so worried about drilling it out, why not just take it to a local machine shop? precision work is precision work, no matter who does it. just find out the location (which i can almost garentee both holes have the same center, so you really already have the location). and the size of the whole (or if you can just bring in a valve w/ 2 o-rings and say you want it to be like that) and just say there's tight tolerances on it. even i can get a hole location +/- .001, and i've only been a "machinist" since september.

              but hey, i don't even think that would be worth your troubles, i would just get the x-valve if i were you guys. yea, drilling might ruin your warrentee, but that's the risk you'd have to be willing to take, and if you're not willing to take it, quit whinning.
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              • askman
                Registered User
                • Feb 2002
                • 463

                #82
                If nothing else, I am sure that there will be few enterprising machinists on AO that will do it(Drill it out) for a reasonable price. go over to dealer's forum and ask around....

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                • aaron_mag
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 1375

                  #83
                  I don't know how much the ULE trigger mod will be but I think Tom said around $100. If they wanted to do a redrilling progam they would have to charge at least $50 to $100 (don't know much about it but just considering time for staff to deal with it, quality control, and profit (yes they have to make that too)). So you are already up to $150 to get your retro modified at a minimum at that point. Might as well pay the extra $75 and get an aluminum valve. In other words at some point redrilling just doesn't make sense. Your marker is still the same marker that you loved and cherished before the ULE trigger was announced so keep using it and save up for that total package!

                  I just wish I had stuck it out with my classic for awhile longer and hadn't bought my retro valve a year ago or so! Oh well when all is said and done I'll have my retro mag and a ULE mag :)
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                  • Mutilus
                    Fighter Not a Lover
                    • May 2003
                    • 54

                    #84
                    So when are they ready to be bought? I am rip roaring and ready to buy this grip frame after using Tom's at Twin Towers, I have cash in hand and am ready to buy buy buy! Please let me know when they are going to be ready to go to us in the public.
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                    • gtrsi
                      Automag?
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 5786

                      #85
                      Originally posted by aaron_mag

                      I just wish I had stuck it out with my classic for awhile longer and hadn't bought my retro valve a year ago or so!
                      shoot,
                      I bought a X valve about a week ago.

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                      • Dayspring
                        aka- The Day Wang

                        • May 2001
                        • 9664

                        #86
                        For the FIFTH time, they are shooting for a debut at the IAO which is the 15th-20th of July.

                        Originally posted by Mutilus
                        So when are they ready to be bought? I am rip roaring and ready to buy this grip frame after using Tom's at Twin Towers, I have cash in hand and am ready to buy buy buy! Please let me know when they are going to be ready to go to us in the public.

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                        • cphilip
                          Former Moderator

                          • Jun 2026
                          • 16216

                          #87
                          Don't worry guys...if the machining can be done...and even of AGD doesn't have the time to do this or want to...there will be people who will know what it takes and maybe can... BradAGD comes to mind.


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                          • Hoplon
                            Registered User
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 222

                            #88
                            I know a guy who send his retro valve in to have lx installed and they changed his on/off without even asking him. He was mad about it because it reduces the reactivity of the valve(which is why they aren't making it for old retros im guessing).

                            Until AGD refuses to do this mod, which probably only takes them 5mins per valve to do, i have a hard time beliving they are going to turn their backs on those of us who have these "old" parts.

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                            • reefer madness
                              Registered User
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 114

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Hoplon
                              i have a hard time beliving they are going to turn their backs on those of us who have these "old" parts.
                              tom said "Sorry about this but this time our technology leap was just too far to bring the old stuff with."

                              ive lost hope they will help us old school retro guys. but tom did say a while back that clasic rt users can trade in there body and valve for xvalve and ule.
                              Last edited by reefer madness; 06-03-2003, 02:11 PM.

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                              • afrankart
                                driving blindfolded
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 713

                                #90
                                I don't think the x-valve and ULE are compatible with the old school RTs
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