Why Was AGD NOT at the Chicago PSP???

[WARPED1]

*EDIT* I commented before I read TK's post here, makes perfect sense.

[IcantBelieveit]

I just have a short tid-bit to add to this. WHO CARES IF THEY WERE NOT THERE!!! It is not your company, your money, your product. Bottom line is, why is there such a big fuss over soemthing you have NO control and never will. Tom has a lot of weight on his shoulders. I personally feel that a lot of you people have a chip on your shoulder for stupid little things...i won't mention names, but the ULE warp body, you have to cut the rail a little, and all of a sudden people started whining about it. The immaturity level of this forum is really amazing. I would just like to see someone NOT complain about SOMETHING for once
/endrant

[Ityl]

Tom, it's tough love. Just about everyone on AO wants AGD to be a successful company.

Maybe what would be a good idea is to hook up with a dealer that attends the big tournaments. Split the costs. That way people looking for AGD products would have a place to purchas them and people looking to purchase products could see AGD's products. Just an idea.

[TooDamnSweet]

Hey Tom, you can't please everyone all the time so stop trying. AND STOP READING THE FORUM AND ENJOY YOUR VACATION!

[DjGruv]

BIGGER?? Your nuts. X-ball is the future. PSP was alot bigger than the NPPL. Maybe down by you but not up here.

Originally posted by magman007


Listen, added on from hitech, the NPPL is much "bigger" and has been promoted much better than PSP, that is probabally why i think tom skipped PSP and went to NPPL. The Nppl is also "cleaner" in my ideas, with the judging, and it is much more professionally run.


PLus i dont think i would want to be associated with psp, i feel they are all a bunch of jackasses

[DjGruv]

Originally posted by IcantBelieveit
I just have a short tid-bit to add to this. WHO CARES IF THEY WERE NOT THERE!!! It is not your company, your money, your product. Bottom line is, why is there such a big fuss over soemthing you have NO control and never will. Tom has a lot of weight on his shoulders. I personally feel that a lot of you people have a chip on your shoulder for stupid little things...i won't mention names, but the ULE warp body, you have to cut the rail a little, and all of a sudden people started whining about it. The immaturity level of this forum is really amazing. I would just like to see someone NOT complain about SOMETHING for once
/endrant

From the looks of it We all care.

[DjGruv]

HEY TOM!!

You should make a new gun!! Ya you can call it the "Bone Collector"

[IcantBelieveit]

Re: HEY TOM!!

Originally posted by DjGruv
You should make a new gun!! Ya you can call it the "Bone Collector"

No Flaming! cphilip

[bmexline]

i think its interesting that most of the negative posts were not about "i needed tech support and you werent there for me". most of the negative posts were about marketing, improving agd's reputation in the industry, showing people that agd guns dont "suck", and getting the public to be more aware of the new exciting products that are comming available. if anything Tom, you should ignore the whiners and take a great amount of pride in the fact that you have made a product that is so great that you have this many people that are concerned about the welfare and future of your company. you would be hard pressed to find any other paintball company that has such loyal fans as to care about the companies welfare. most customers just want a better product for less money and to h*** with the company and its viability.

[Scooter/Cootie]

Originally posted by bmexline
if anything Tom, you should ignore the whiners and take a great amount of pride in the fact that you have made a product that is so great that you have this many people that are concerned about the welfare and future of your company. you would be hard pressed to find any other paintball company that has such loyal fans as to care about the companies welfare.

Amen!

[WARPED1]

Originally posted by DjGruv
BIGGER?? Your nuts. X-ball is the future. PSP was alot bigger than the NPPL. Maybe down by you but not up here.

I must concur with the above statement.

[lack of grace]

Re: who cares

Originally posted by HOMOCIDAL2
I'll bet none of you give up your vacation. Maybe Mr. Kaye gets tired of paintball for a couple of weeks a year, and wants to look at fossils. Thats his business. As far as his products go, ever since I bought my first mag ten years ago, I'll always use them. No matter what anybody thinks, because I like them. I don't care if he ever advertises anywhere as long as the quality stays the same. If 500,000 people don't know where to buy AGD stuff, I do. So let people go on vacation. It's nice to get away from work for a while.

I agree with you....

It does not generally affect you all who are whining...Don't critique someone whos been in business as long as Tom and his team has been holding AGD up.

He wants to go on vacation and not have anyone show up. Great! It affects none of your lives anyway.

Drama Queens! ;P

[RT pRo AuToMaG]

Re: Re: who cares

Originally posted by lack of grace


I agree with you....

It does not generally affect you all who are *****ing...Don't critique someone whos been in business as long as Tom and his team has been holding AGD up.

He wants to go on vacation and not have anyone show up. Great! It affects none of your lives anyway.

Drama Queens! ;P

It doesn't matter if he's been in buisness for a year or for 50 years, BAD MARKETING IS BAD MARKETING. I'd rather a few people upset for not having their guns back on time then not get your new products out to the masses and not sell anything. Odyssey Paintball went to the Chicago PSP and I had sent my HALO to them to get upgraded. I have to wait, but I understand that they have to sell their product. Also, saying Dye, Smart Parts, and WDP did not show up is a very poor excuse. When I open a paintball magazine, those 3 companies have ads everywhere. Not to mention that the are some of the most respected companies in the buisness. Another thing, saying that Bad company playing with spyders and spyder showing up at events doesn't change people's opinion on them, well that doesn't matter. They aren't targeting the tourney players, they are targeting the beginners and players on a budget, and rec players. Well, I guess in the end, it isn't really my choice, and I really doubt posting on the internet will change anything. I just hope AGD gets a little wiser about advertizing and marketing.

[lack of grace]

Re: Re: Re: who cares

Originally posted by RT pRo AuToMaG

It doesn't matter if he's been in buisness for a year or for 50 years, BAD MARKETING IS BAD MARKETING.

What gives you the right for any type of judgement call?

Originally posted by RT pRo AuToMaG

I'd rather a few people upset for not having their guns back on time then not get your new products out to the masses and not sell anything.

Your opinion ultimately doesn't matter and your really not affected by them not showing. AGD does not care what "you would rather."

Where is your somewhat successful, very well known paintball company.

[Army]

Look at it this way:

New ULE bodies are here! So-long stainless steel, hello aluminum! WOO HOO!........well, except we didn't bring any here since we don't have enough in stock, and taking enough for the PSP would deplete our stocks so much our dealers and on-line sales would suffer terribly.

HOWEVER!

New Xvalve are here! So-long stainless steel, hello aluminum! WOOHOO!.........well, except we didn't bring any since we are so busy filling orders for our dealers and on-line sales, not to mention they are the new standard valve for RT-Pros-Emags-Xmags so we have to use nearly all we have in stock, and none were left the PSP.

HOWEVER!

The new Xmags are here! So-long heavy stainless steel marker, hello lightweight aluminum 'Cocker Killer!WOOHOO!........well, except we don't have any here, because they are made in England in small batches we have to keep our dealers happy, and on-line sales filled first before we have extras to bring to the PSP.

HOWEVER!

The new ULE Trigger is here! So-long heavy pull, hello electro-like mechanical dreams! WOOHOO!.......well, except we haven't made too many yet, as it is still in beta testing and we don't want to disappoint our dealers and on-line sales with another product failure possibility, so we didn't bring any to the PSP.

HOWEVER!

Tom and/or AGD have been at nearly every major tourney and scenario game for the last 8 months showing off what great AGD products and services that ARE in stock and available for immediate purchase and use, so Tom decided to take welcome vacation and relax doing his other hobby! WOOHOO!......well, until someone complained that Tom and/or AGD didn't make it to ONE tourney out of dozens....