3000 psi C02 tank, hydro?, N2? PLEASE HELP!

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  • dead_head
    Registered User
    • Jul 2003
    • 118

    #16
    thanks

    thanks, anymore links for a cheap preset reg?

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    • hitech
      Not a shedder of vortices
      • Nov 2001
      • 4775

      #17
      MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THAT TANK HYDROTESTED.

      It is my understanding that you are not supposed to use a fiber wrapped tank for CO2. The large temperature changes (especially when chilling the bottle to fill it) can cause the fiber to separate from the tank. I would not use that tank for anything other than a doorstop UNTIL IT PASSES A HYDROTEST.

      It may well be fine. Just have it checked out first.


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      • Kevmaster
        Owners Group Div: Director
        • Oct 2001
        • 5475

        #18
        ok...accurate...non speculation here

        1) first hydro test it. use the people above, ims ure they are good. Yes, you can use Co2 in a N2 bottle if it is properly made. It will hold, many shockers and impys among others do it. Assuming it passes, then:

        2) you'll want to look for a reg to replace it. then you can get one of the regs above (the centerflag one is the BETS REGULTOR hands down IMHO...and its adjustable). You can get preset regs for around $75 from hte manufacturer. (Crossfire, PMI, ACI, Center Flag, System X).

        TNS brought up a good point. On N2 tanks there are two standard threads...1/2" and 5/8"...95% of tanks are 5/8"...but SOME are 1/2" in diameter. Make sure you get the right kind. Because of this, I would recommend sending it to the comnpany you get the reg from (ie: Center Flag) and have them install it. You will want professional to insall it anyways, why not have them do it

        let us know if you have more questions

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        • dead_head
          Registered User
          • Jul 2003
          • 118

          #19
          wow, thanks for all the info, i think i'll send my tank tomorrow to haver it tested, then..?, i guess i'll call some of the companies about the regs, now do the regs that ya'll are talking about just take the place of the C02 valve installed?, or would the screw on the end of the CO2 valve that is on the tank right now?

          thanks again

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          • dead_head
            Registered User
            • Jul 2003
            • 118

            #20
            also, im getting this on/off :



            is it okay to use?, would i just screw the tank in and be ready to go?

            thanks again

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            • dead_head
              Registered User
              • Jul 2003
              • 118

              #21
              ???

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              • FalconGuy016
                Divine Right, Pevs @ AG
                • Aug 2002
                • 6127

                #22
                Thats fine if you get a screw in reg
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                • ASDadam
                  Registered User
                  • May 2003
                  • 587

                  #23
                  The tank does not look like a 68 at all. It looks to be either an 88 or a 114, that tank uses 5/8s threads so you're safe there. A friend of mine got a 114ci tank made by the same people when he bought his shocker.

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                  • hitech
                    Not a shedder of vortices
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 4775

                    #24
                    It depends. If you get a reg. that has a pin valve, then yes that would be usefull. However, some drops have them built in. Not all regs have pin valves. If it does not then you won't and cannot use it. Get the reg first.


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                    • Corbet
                      Registered User
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 358

                      #25
                      I have a 68ci 4500 psi Crossfire tank... Would I be able to put a centerflag regulator on it? (The one from actionvillage)

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                      • iownamag
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                        • Jan 2003
                        • 588

                        #26
                        Originally posted by hitech
                        MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THAT TANK HYDROTESTED.

                        It is my understanding that you are not supposed to use a fiber wrapped tank for CO2. The large temperature changes (especially when chilling the bottle to fill it) can cause the fiber to separate from the tank. I would not use that tank for anything other than a doorstop UNTIL IT PASSES A HYDROTEST.

                        It may well be fine. Just have it checked out first.
                        actually smart parts does conversions to make fiber wrapped tanks run on co2 by replacing the valve and probably doing some other stuff to it i don't really know the whole procedure, and if you have an impulse or shocker you may want to consider getting it hydroed and keeping the co2 reg because that would save you a lot of money and you would get a lot of shots. Supposedly smart part guns work relatively good on co2 which is why they do the conversion.

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                        • hitech
                          Not a shedder of vortices
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 4775

                          #27
                          Originally posted by iownamag
                          Actually smart parts does conversions to make fiber wrapped tanks run on co2 by replacing the valve and probably doing some other stuff to it...
                          I read somewhere and I believe it was a "reliable source" that said you run the risk of the wrap separating from the tank. It makes basic sense to me and seems like a huge risk to run. I assume the tank itself would be rated for the pressures of CO2, but I do not know. I guess if you NEVER use HPA in the tank it's okay. Since that tanks needs to be hydrotested anyway, I wouldn't do anything with it until it passed. It's just not worth gambling on.


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                          • iownamag
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                            • Jan 2003
                            • 588

                            #28
                            yea i suppose it makes sense that that could happen if the tank had been used before it was converted, but I figure if it passes inspection after being used for the 3 year period then the co2 isn't doing much damage to the tank..

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                            • Tom Sparkman
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                              • Dec 2001
                              • 128

                              #29
                              Originally posted by hitech
                              I read somewhere and I believe it was a "reliable source" that said you run the risk of the wrap separating from the tank. It makes basic sense to me and seems like a huge risk to run. I assume the tank itself would be rated for the pressures of CO2, but I do not know. I guess if you NEVER use HPA in the tank it's okay. Since that tanks needs to be hydrotested anyway, I wouldn't do anything with it until it passed. It's just not worth gambling on.
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                              • hitech
                                Not a shedder of vortices
                                • Nov 2001
                                • 4775

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Tom Sparkman
                                Doc from the Tinker's guild FAT
                                Thanks. That is what I read. And I would consider him a reliable source.

                                And I'm not saying that the tank is junk. I would not fill it UNTIL it passed a hydrotest. It's just not worth the risk.


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