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  • kenndogg
    I hate people in general
    • May 2003
    • 881

    #16
    I take back any good things I ever said about NPS. They just rolled over. Spineless...
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    • Clockwork_Orange
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      • May 2003
      • 284

      #17
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      • A to the G-Dizzle
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        • Aug 2003
        • 69

        #18
        I guess sometimes, they gotta do what they gotta do
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        • gtrsi
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          • Dec 2001
          • 5786

          #19
          NPS isnt this Bob's shop?

          I cant imgine why he we buy into the SP copyright? Maybe to make a little money? Start to connect the dots and you begin to understand how deep the rabbit hole goes.
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          • kenndogg
            I hate people in general
            • May 2003
            • 881

            #20
            SP served Bob Long with some papers at the PSP, didn't take too long before NPS bowed down to SP. Sad thing is NPS is one of the big boys...
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            • GeoffreyInNJ
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              • Oct 2002
              • 137

              #21
              To the best of my knowledge, NPS is actually Gino Postorivo (sp?). Bob Long, Empire, 32 Degrees, Draxxus, VForce, Halo and more are all either owned by NPS or heavily involved with NPS and Gino.
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              • Sparks
                Registered User
                • Oct 2002
                • 94

                #22
                As has been pointed out to me, NPS is a big distributor of SP products, so there may have been a mutual agreement without NPS giving too much up. I don't know if they exactly rolled over, as much as said "If you screw us, we can screw you back. How about you leave us alone and keep us out of your pithy legal battles and we'll let you do whatever the hell you want"


                In the end, what it means is that SP no longer has to fight NPS, whether they rolled over or not, and it's VERY bad news for any smaller company, AGD included, that may not have the deep pockets to stand up to SP. NPS probably had the best chance of beating SP, from a financial standppoint.

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                • rikkter
                  • Jun 2002
                  • 1804

                  #23
                  Originally posted by xen_100
                  its really simple........if people stop buying smart parts stuff, then they wont make any money and they will drop this. but if people just keep complaining and buying stuff from SP, it wont do any good.

                  STOP BUYING SP. once they are out of business, their patents are null and void!
                  your wrong. if the patent does go through, they'll make enough money from the lisence fees and such, where even if we didn't buy anything from them, they'd still be rich.
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                  • FalconGuy016
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                    • Aug 2002
                    • 6127

                    #24
                    Originally posted by rikkter


                    your wrong. if the patent does go through, they'll make enough money from the lisence fees and such, where even if we didn't buy anything from them, they'd still be rich.
                    Many millions of dollars putting smaller developmental paintball companies that are exploring the edges of paintball technology out of buisness
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                    • AgentOrange 88
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 13

                      #25
                      Originally posted by rikkter


                      your wrong. if the patent does go through, they'll make enough money from the lisence fees and such, where even if we didn't buy anything from them, they'd still be rich.
                      Than if worst comes to worst I say we all just buy mechanical guns and no electros. That way SP wouldnt make any money.
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                      • dcmander
                        Sweet Shot
                        • Jun 2002
                        • 798

                        #26
                        Originally posted by AgentOrange 88


                        Than if worst comes to worst I say we all just buy mechanical guns and no electros. That way SP wouldnt make any money.
                        That is probably what will happen.

                        Tom created a thread about ALL mechanical tournamnets...and our participation in them and whether or not we would dump our electros for mech for all mech tourneys.....

                        This is probably what will happen. All mech fields (maybe) and all mech tournaments.

                        Maybe AGD will soar if this happens nationally...

                        Does this mean that if this patent does go through, and I successful get my Xmag...That the value would go up and I could sell it for more than I bought it for? ????
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                        • 1stdeadeye
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                          • Jun 2002
                          • 8501

                          #27
                          Not good. Gino owns or has controlling interest in 32 degrees, Rebel, Empire, BLAST (Bob Longs company) and quite a few more. Gino must have cut a sweet backroom deal. He is too cheap and shrewd to let SP roll over him. Their agreement could simply have been, SP don't sue us and we will continue to distribute your products nationwide. Mess with us and We will bury you, i.e. good luck being your own distributor!

                          I always thought Gino was Italian. Little did we know he was French!

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                          • Angry Man
                            Supreme Dicator of 15Club
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 333

                            #28
                            Dream on. It means more expensive electros, more smart parts electros, lower profit margins for everyone but smart parts and nothing else.
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                            • SyntaxError
                              OSK #3
                              • Sep 2001
                              • 621

                              #29
                              You guys do realize that the professional tourney scene will still be dominated by electros, right?

                              It'll just turn itself into more factory teams, and those who can afford to buy electros as long as they are legal.
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                              • cphilip
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                                • Jun 2026
                                • 16216

                                #30
                                Just because thats what they have in their hands doesn't mean THAT'S what makes them good players... I would go out on a limb and say they could do equaly well with a good fast mechanical marker... Maybe better!

                                Saying an electonic marker equiped team won is like saying a Firestone tire is more likely to be the tire that explodes on an Explorer. Heck I would think so since thats all the used to put on them!

                                The results do not overshadow the person behind the marker. All it takes is one burst of three shots and the right moves to get the angles. And laying down cover can be effectivly done at 12 BPS... heck a Spyder can do that...

                                You should also note that far more teams with electronic markers Lose than win. There can only be one winning team. So should you conclude that statisticaly Electronic markers cause teams to lose? I don't think you should. Same error as concluding it makes them win.

                                People put far too much emphasis on the marker and not enough on the players. I would rather have ANY marker that functions on the field with me than a useless hunk of Aluminum that doesn't.


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