What happenes to WDP if smart parts shuts them down?

[Webmaster]

BTW - Gadget or our other UK memeber - I would love to get my hands on a good shaped Colonial for my collection - let me know if you find one.

[manike]

Way to type too much and destroy a thread, again.

Originally posted by shartley

I don't claim to be an expert. But I very definitely have paid experts to look into it, and had very highly paid experts to point out the issues to me from companies licencing my patents. If most folks could read it all for themselves they wouldn't be asking the questions. It's a shame you so often post irrelevant stuff as if it matters and then can't admit to being wrong or back down gracefully.

You are wrong if you think a USA patent is going to stop somebody ripping it off in another country. You just can't ever admit to being wrong or irrelevant.

As for saving face? I don't feel the need to post pages trying to back up my irrelevances or ignorance on the subject matter. You will see from my last post that I did make a mistake, and apologised for it. I'll quote it again for you.

a mistake to make such a sweeping statement when there are such analy retentive people about.

EDIT p.s. Webby I have had several people put in such requests lately so I will see what I can do.

[shartley]

Re: Way to type too much and destroy a thread, again.

Originally posted by manike
I don't claim to be an expect. But I very definitely have paid experts to look into it, and had very highly paid experts to point out the issues to me from companies licencing my patents. If most folks could read it all for themselves they wouldn't be asking the questions. It's a shame you so often post irrelevant stuff as if it matters and then can't admit to being wrong or back down gracefully.

Originally posted by manike
You are wrong if you think a USA patent is going to stop somebody ripping it off in another country. You just can't ever admit to being wrong or irrelevant.

Originally posted by manike
As for saving face? I don't feel the need to post pages trying to back up my irrelevances or ignorance on the subject matter. You will see from my last post that I did make a mistake, and apologised for it. I'll quote it again for you.

[manike]

Hello Mr McFly?

Originally posted by shartley
And that has what to do with your own posts, and what you posted that was wrong?

Erm it's telling you that issues you brought up are not correct because on that very subject, I have researched it, and experts have researched it for me, and experts have researched it against me. And all came to the same conclusions. A USA patent has no powers to help stop infringement in any country that is not the USA. It does allow priority dates to be set for patents applied for and relevant to foreign countries that are part of the relevant pact. If the pending patent is not granted in the relevant foreign countries then the USA patent holds no relevance...

Now as for myself and the fact that I wrote my own patents and have been researching them for years on the net and the fact that I have been involved with highly trained professionals who are expert in this area..., but on second thoughts yes, I'll bow down to your vastly superior knowledge on the subject due to the fact you watched a program about a year ago on patents which was about irrelevant products and irrelevant issues to the industry we are discussing here.

I'm very happy for people to read what has been said and then look up the relevant information for themselves. That's all good. Thanks for giving them some links to help them.

I'm only posting to put the facts straight. There is enough rubbish about this issue without adding more. I don't care about 'saving face'.

[SlartyBartFast]

Well written Manike.

I think that being outside the US *AND* having applied for, received, and liscenced your own patents you're quite a bit more qualified than anyone else on the board to talk about international (and even US specific) patent issues.

Any one who thinks otherwise probably needs their head examined.

[shartley]

Originally posted by manike
Erm it's telling you that issues you brought up are not correct because on that very subject, I have researched it, and experts have researched it for me, and experts have researched it against me. And all came to the same conclusions. A USA patent has no powers to help stop infringement in any country that is not the USA. It does allow priority dates to be set for patents applied for and relevant to foreign countries that are part of the relevant pact. If the pending patent is not granted in the relevant foreign countries then the USA patent holds no relevance...

Originally posted by manike
Now as for myself and the fact that I wrote my own patents and have been researching them for years on the net and the fact that I have been involved with highly trained professionals who are expert in this area..., but on second thoughts yes, I'll bow down to your vastly superior knowledge on the subject due to the fact you watched a program about a year ago on patents which was about irrelevant products and irrelevant issues to the industry we are discussing here.

Originally posted by manike
I'm very happy for people to read what has been said and then look up the relevant information for themselves. That's all good. Thanks for giving them some links to help them.

I'm only posting to put the facts straight. There is enough rubbish about this issue without adding more. I don't care about 'saving face'.

[manike]

Put up or shut up.

You say you find other different information elsewhere but don't give links or proof. You just advise 'folks' to read a huge website full of information and talk about stuff that is not relevant, and point them to links that are not relevant to the real subject here (I don't care however much you want to try and sidetrack the real issue), and now you have twisted the thread even further away by picking up on a small issue on which I already apologised for making a mistake about.

I admitted to making a mistake about my being so general in saying you can't extend patents, but now you are trying to make it sound like something else.

As for the rest, well you are wrong until you can find proof elsewise. I can't believe you want to try an insinuate I am wrong in something I have been so widely involved in and researching. But yet you still do. Fine. People will read that and see for themselves what they want to think and believe in the subject. Hopefully if interested they will research it further also.

You haven't posted any support. You have given links to a huge website and told people to read for themselves. Well you will find you are wrong if you just go to www.google.com and read all the information they have on the subject there you will realise it.

Where does it say on the USPTO website that a USA patent will help you prevent (or stop what has started) infringement by foreign companies on foreign soil? I'd really like to see that information.

[Kevmaster]

I love AO

[Creative Mayhem]

Originally posted by Kevmaster
I love AO

I agree...

FIGHT!!!!

[hardr0ck68]

it must hurt to be some people....and if it doesnt then it should

[shartley]

[Fred]

just put him on Ignore like so many of us have already Simon... it makes for a much shorter, relevant, informative and fun to read thread...

As for WDP leaving the US market, darn... its not like they ever built a pump version for my nitch of the market...

---Fred

[Kaiser Bob]

Originally posted by shartley

Hey, isnt that kinda of name calling in itself?


Oh yeah Fred PM me your address so i can send you your stuff as i didnt make it to castle

[bofh]

Working in the pharma industry, I have to chance to bother some of our lawyers about our patent troubles. (we're running against some deadlines )

Drug patents are different from non-drug patents, as they are much shorter in duration (7 years, IIRC) , and a myrid of special rules apply. As far as I know, after asking our lawyers over lunch, only FDA regulated patents can be extended.

[bofh]

Whoops, just had some thing clarified for me, only regulated patents can be extended.

That is, patents describe a product that have to be reviewed by a regulator agency before their commercial use. At the time, the only thing that my lunch buddy can think of is FDA approved items, like a drug, medical device, food additive, or color additive.